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American companies find manners still matter
AP ^ | Jun 28, 2005 | Ellen Wulfhorst

Posted on 06/28/2005 12:16:13 PM PDT by phoenix_004

Business etiquette coach Barbara Pachter likes to tell the story of a financial executive who, dining with a potential client, licked his knife clean at the end of the meal.

"It was a $30 million dollar lick," she said at a recent etiquette seminar in Goshen, New York, referring to the value of the deal the executive lost by offending the potential customer.

Businesses are turning to etiquette training to boost their bottom line, according to the coaches who train employees on everything from shaking hands to buttering bread.

Simply put, better-behaved employees are more valuable than brutish oafs, they say.

"Etiquette is saying that it's really OK to be nice," said Peter Post, the great-grandson of etiquette's grand dame Emily Post and himself a writer and lecturer on business etiquette.

"We've had an attitude in this country that being nice was somehow counter-productive to good business, to being successful," he said, adding, "In fact, being nice is a way to be much more successful in business. It has real bottom-line, dollar value."

He's seen demand for etiquette training boom in recent years, he added.

"We've heard over and over from corporations who have employees with all these skills but can't let them take a client out to lunch," Post said. "I get calls every week."

In suburban New York, employees of Elant Inc., which runs health and housing facilities for the elderly, have been studying etiquette since the company decided to slash its advertising budget and send staff into the community to drum up business through word of mouth.

LOST ART

Sent out to join civic groups and meet people, employees soon complained they were uncomfortable networking and socializing, so the company turned to an etiquette coach, Elant Chief Executive Donna Case-McAleer said. "It's a lost art," she said. Elant employees recently attended a day-long seminar to hear Pachter answer an array of etiquette questions:

--What accessories do people notice first? Watches and pens.

--Where should empty foil butter wrappers go? Fold the foil wrappers in half and place them under the bread plate.

--How does one eat spaghetti at a business dinner? Don't even touch spaghetti; it's too messy.

--Should a man be told that his fly is open? Yes, people should be always informed of zipper failure.

Listening, Elant administrator Laurence LaDue said he was well aware of his own etiquette failings. "I don't speak up, I'm guilty of the 'ums,' and I'm a fidgeter," he said.

Jan Davis, new to Elant management, found herself practicing her handshake with some tips from the coach.

"I've never been in the corporate world before. I've got a lot I need to learn," she said.

In a telling development in the world of business etiquette, Post said he has just added a chapter on ethics to the business etiquette book he first published six years ago.

Not paying attention to ethics, he said, can be costly. Just look at Tyco International Ltd.'s Dennis Kozlowski, facing prison for stealing the company's money, he said. The former chief executive could have used a little etiquette, he said.

"We teach people to think before they act. My guess is he wasn't thinking. He was doing. But unfortunately we're responsible for our actions, and now he's responsible for his," Post said after a recent lecture in New York.

Experts say modern etiquette is different from just a few years ago. Women's roles have changed, families spend less time in such settings as sit-down meals, children of working parents often fend for themselves and television and movies glorify profanity and rough-and-tumble behavior. "If I asked my mother where she learned manners from, it was probably from Sunday dinner, and I don't think you find that today," said Susan Schulmerich, an Elant vice president. "In many ways, we're missing a lot in our informal society and loss or tradition."

BACK TO BASICS

Pachter said she often has to go back to basics. "I am amazed I have to tell people to say please and thank you," she said. "Somewhere between childhood and adulthood, we stop using those words."

Listening to Post, businesswoman Dale Marcovitz said she wished her company, a huge retailer, would train employees.

"I'm from the old school and social graces, or the lack of, is what I notice the most, she said.

A study of people who experienced incivility at work, conducted by the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill's Kenan-Flagler Business School, showed how costly it can be.

One in five said they worked less hard as a result of rudeness at work, and one in 10 spent less time at the office. Nearly half considered changing jobs, and more than 10 percent did so, the study found.

"It's more than just telling a person the rules," said Post. "Etiquette does have value for people. Etiquette makes you a successful person."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: companies; etiquette; manners; turass; workplace
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1 posted on 06/28/2005 12:16:14 PM PDT by phoenix_004
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To: Fierce Allegiance; Constitution Day; martin_fierro; Tijeras_Slim; Owl_Eagle
Should a man be told that his fly is open? Yes, people should be always informed of zipper failure.

Your flys are all open.

Madejalook. ;)

2 posted on 06/28/2005 12:20:51 PM PDT by TheBigB (Why yes, I -do- rock! Thanks for noticing!)
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To: phoenix_004
Business etiquette coach Barbara Pachter likes to tell the story of a financial executive who, dining with a potential client, licked his knife clean at the end of the meal. "It was a $30 million dollar lick," she said at a recent etiquette seminar in Goshen, New York, referring to the value of the deal the executive lost by offending the potential customer.

Sounds like an urban legend to me.

3 posted on 06/28/2005 12:21:41 PM PDT by Maceman (The Qur'an is Qur'ap.)
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To: phoenix_004
Heh... I remember the verbal haranguing in Portuguese that I got from a taxi cab driver in Rio de Janiero after I gave him the "OK" sign


4 posted on 06/28/2005 12:22:29 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket (Proud Member: Internet Pajama Wearers for Truth)
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To: TheBigB
Your flys are all open.

Thanks for your helpful frankness. Since one good turn deserves another, I suppose I should be equally frank and tell you that your spelling sucks.

5 posted on 06/28/2005 12:23:05 PM PDT by Maceman (The Qur'an is Qur'ap.)
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To: TheBigB

Whenever my wife points out my zipper failures I try to be polite saying "thanks for noticing".


6 posted on 06/28/2005 12:26:37 PM PDT by Jack of all Trades
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To: phoenix_004
--Should a man be told that his fly is open? Yes, people should be always informed of zipper failure.

There are some who consider that to be a zipper success instead of a failure.


7 posted on 06/28/2005 12:28:08 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Bork should have had Kennedy's USSC seat and Kelo v. New London would have gone the other way.)
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To: phoenix_004

We do fine dining etiquette at family Feasts, on the holidays when everyone is visiting.

At least one meal, and sometimes more, are done with all the forks, knives, spoons, plates, bowls, glasses, napkins, cups and saucers formal dinner setting...it's fun, the kids help set the table and ask about everything fromt the chargers to the butter knives on the bread plates to the fish forks to the dessert spoons, etc.

The only thing we haven't done is the palate-cleansing sherbet between courses...

My grandkids get a kick out of it all...when we put the gold lame tablecloth out and the limoge china, the silver and crystal, light everything with candles...they range in age from 5 to 11...

I told them that when they have this mastered, they can eat dinner at the White House and not have to worry about which freaking fork to use!


8 posted on 06/28/2005 12:29:14 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: So Cal Rocket

And be careful flashing the "V for victory" sign in Great Britain: palms out is OK, but palms in is offensive. (I think I got that right...)


9 posted on 06/28/2005 12:30:36 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'chaim!)
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To: Maceman
I did consider "flies", but decided that that particular spelling of the plural was too closely connected with any of the numerous two-winged insects of the order Diptera, especially any of the family Muscidae, which includes the housefly. That, in turn, would have rendered the joke much less effective. IMHO.
10 posted on 06/28/2005 12:30:38 PM PDT by TheBigB (Why yes, I -do- rock! Thanks for noticing!)
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To: TheBigB

Phew, thanks, That could have been embarrassing.


11 posted on 06/28/2005 12:30:54 PM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (This is not your granddaddy's America)
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To: Maceman
Sounds like an urban legend to me.

Not if he were having dinner with a European.

12 posted on 06/28/2005 12:31:27 PM PDT by Sam the Sham
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To: Maceman

BTW, your flie is open.


13 posted on 06/28/2005 12:31:41 PM PDT by TheBigB (Why yes, I -do- rock! Thanks for noticing!)
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To: TheBigB

Well, you dropped some of your lunch on your shirt!

:P


14 posted on 06/28/2005 12:34:10 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Judith Anne
While reading your whole post, I swear I could hear the chamber music right up until worry about which freaking fork to use! where it abruptly changed to a Ted Nugent sound check.
15 posted on 06/28/2005 12:35:15 PM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (This is not your granddaddy's America)
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To: phoenix_004

Which reminds me... can any FReepers from Australia tell me if this is true: Turning your glass upside down at the dinner table is a challenge to a fight to the person across the table from you.

I'm guessing Urban Legend, but just to be on the safe side, if I didn't want wine for dinner, I moved my wine glass far away from me, rather than turn it upside down.


16 posted on 06/28/2005 12:35:36 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket (Proud Member: Internet Pajama Wearers for Truth)
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To: Constitution Day

DAMN! You get me with that one all the time, CD!


17 posted on 06/28/2005 12:36:15 PM PDT by TheBigB (Why yes, I -do- rock! Thanks for noticing!)
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To: TheBigB

I say. Do try to be more careful, old boy.


18 posted on 06/28/2005 12:36:39 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: phoenix_004
Jan Davis, new to Elant management, found herself practicing her handshake with some tips from the coach.

I've noticed that a lot of men have trouble shaking a woman's hand correctly. Please do not feel the need to shatter every bone in my hand with your vice-like, crushing grip, but don't handle my hand like it's a delicate rose petal either. (I'm sure neither applies to any male Freepers, so don't roast me!) :-)
19 posted on 06/28/2005 12:37:08 PM PDT by CO Gal (Liberals should be seen, but not heard..)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Dinner music is always welcome. Something from Jeff Beck, maybe.


20 posted on 06/28/2005 12:37:28 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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