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Big Dot! - GM Halts Stock Trading by Top Executives
By Dee-Ann Durbin, AP Auto Writer ^ | June 27, 2005 | Milwaukee_Guy

Posted on 06/27/2005 7:48:27 PM PDT by Milwaukee_Guy

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To: Spktyr
At some point, it matters not how big a discount you are offered.

You simply don't want the product.

I learned my lesson on USA cars after I purchased BOTH of the last two fleet cars (GM mid-sized) from my employer's fleet division at unbelievable discounts. I had personally driven each from 0 to 65,000 miles. Both had been meticulously serviced...true road miles...and BOTH were P.O.S. by 85,000!

I tried to support "Made in USA" cars for years...no more.

Two Mazdas and a Honda in the driveway now.

Sorry...
41 posted on 06/27/2005 10:00:48 PM PDT by CaptSkip
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To: Spktyr

GM management needs to read your post. On the other hand even if Lutz and Wagoner were forced to read it a hundred times over I am 100% certain the only steps the would take (if they took any in the first place) is just mess things up more. GM may be an even better paragon of 'why companie fail' than even US Steel could ever aspire to.


42 posted on 06/27/2005 10:49:46 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear tipped ICBMs: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol.)
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To: spetznaz

I have to disagree with you on Lutz. Lutz hasn't been in there long enough and hasn't had much responsibility - and Wagoner has systematically shot down at least half of things that Lutz has proposed (revenge for Lutz's deriding of the Aztek.)

Lutz has been behind the renaissance at Cadillac, the wonderful GTO importation, and the Saturn Sky/Pontiac Solstice twins. He's had no fiduciary responsibility at all, he's basically been put in charge of product development (with severely limited powers because Waggie clipped his wings and Lutz is signed to a contract that says he can't leave). Waggie is responsible for all the stupid mistakes and things like the Aztek, the Rendezvous, the continued production of the Impala when the competition is RWD or AWD, killing off the Zeta RWD platform for the US (and thus any hope of a Camaro/Firebird/Caprice replacement) etc. etc.

Basically, Lutz has been trying to fix the product lineup, but the GM old-guard won't let him.

Remember, Waggie is responsible for that abortion known as the Aztek and is the only reason that it hasn't been axed like GM promised to three years ago. The day he goes to jail wil be a great day for all mankind.


43 posted on 06/27/2005 11:02:15 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

UAW.


44 posted on 06/28/2005 12:58:29 AM PDT by MonroeDNA
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To: Calpernia; Velveeta; lacylu

Ping


45 posted on 06/28/2005 1:02:15 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (Get the United States out of the UN and the UN out of the United States,....)
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To: Azzurri
They could probably cut 300 of these dead weight executives and save $120 million in salaries alone.

I would wager that GM could replace all 400 with only 20 winos hired out of the gutter and not fail any faster than it will under the current management. Actually, the company would probably do much better.

46 posted on 06/28/2005 5:16:04 AM PDT by AlbertWang
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To: MonroeDNA

What about the Union of the Asinine and Worthless?


47 posted on 06/28/2005 5:28:26 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Milwaukee_Guy
General Motors Corp. has forbidden senior executives and other employees with access to internal financial information from buying or selling company stock indefinitely, a spokeswoman for the automaker said Monday.

Gee, I thought that's what insider trading was all about!

48 posted on 06/28/2005 5:30:46 AM PDT by infocats
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To: Azzurri
Too many chiefs, not enough Indians.

Too many Indians with too many bennies :)

49 posted on 06/28/2005 5:32:38 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Milwaukee_Guy

The lessons of Enron.


50 posted on 06/28/2005 5:40:31 AM PDT by wtc911 ("I would like at least to know his name.")
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To: japaneseghost
And how difficult would it be for one ballsy venture capitalist or investment banker to figure out how to buy out GM and turn it around?

Kirk Kerkorian is going to try to do just that - he already owns a significant piece of the company. Maybe he can offer the union workers he's about to lay off jobs in some of his Vegas casinos. ;)

51 posted on 06/28/2005 5:53:58 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Violence never settles anything." Genghis Khan, 1162-1227)
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To: Milwaukee_Guy
Anyone remember craftsmanship? Way back when businesses took pride in their work for their identity. Now businesses are hijacked to collect salaries and bonuses and roll out cheap products.





52 posted on 06/28/2005 6:50:39 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Geeze!!! What happened to all the doom and gloom and Dow fears and stop orders, etc., from last night? Dow's UP!!!


53 posted on 06/28/2005 8:33:33 AM PDT by SierraWasp (Arnold Schwarzenrenegger is Cauleeforneeah's Greenievenator!!! He's infected with GANG-GREEN!!!)
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To: theDentist

What dip? It's up over 77 points as I type this!!! Surprise, surprise, surprise!!!


54 posted on 06/28/2005 8:36:32 AM PDT by SierraWasp (Arnold Schwarzenrenegger is Cauleeforneeah's Greenievenator!!! He's infected with GANG-GREEN!!!)
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To: CaptSkip

Yep, the Honda dealer, where we bought all three of our Hondas (Civic, Accord, Odyssey) is still doing very brisk business.


55 posted on 06/28/2005 8:37:02 AM PDT by dfwgator (Congratulations Longhorns.)
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To: SierraWasp

I think the Street basically concluded that GM is toast months ago, and it was already incorporated in the stock prices.


56 posted on 06/28/2005 8:38:07 AM PDT by dfwgator (Congratulations Longhorns.)
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To: dfwgator
Here, you can have mine.

57 posted on 06/28/2005 8:39:02 AM PDT by evets (</sarcasm>)
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To: SierraWasp

This is why I am not wealthy beyond my dreams....


58 posted on 06/28/2005 8:41:20 AM PDT by theDentist (The Dems have put all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: Milwaukee_Guy
why is GM up $0.69 on this news?
59 posted on 06/28/2005 8:41:23 AM PDT by RightWhale (withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty)
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To: japaneseghost

A buy-out won't cut it....the buyer would still be bound by the ridiculous labor contracts that GM saddled itself with back in the 80's. GM will have to die. After a full-on bankruptcy, and the labor contracts shredded, a dynamic management team can bring GM back into the fold, but no buyout will save it.


60 posted on 06/28/2005 8:49:33 AM PDT by Space Wrangler
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