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RULINGS IN THE U.S. SUPREME COURT'S TEN COMMANDMENTS CASES
FINDLAW ^ | 6-27-05 | SCOTUS

Posted on 06/27/2005 11:03:42 AM PDT by OXENinFLA

RULINGS IN THE U.S. SUPREME COURT'S TEN COMMANDMENTS CASES
June 27, 2005

In different rulings, the justices ban displays of the Ten Commandments at courthouses, but allow them to be placed on government land.

The Courthouse Ruling:

Opinion (McCreary County v. ACLU)
http://laws.findlaw.com/us/000/03-1693.html

The ACLU's Attorney
http://pview.findlaw.com/view/3433759_1

Attorney for Liberty Counsel
http://pview.findlaw.com/view/1438042_1

Case Docket
http://rd.findlaw.com/scripts/nl.pl?url=11198556000_nl

The Government Land Ruling:

Opinion (Van Orden v. Perry)
http://laws.findlaw.com/us/000/03-1500.html

Attorney for Texas
http://pview.findlaw.com/vie

(Excerpt) Read more at caselaw.lp.findlaw.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Kentucky; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 10commandments; aclu; establishmentclause; mccreary; ruling; scotus; tencommandments; texascapitol; vanorden
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1 posted on 06/27/2005 11:03:43 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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2 posted on 06/27/2005 11:04:19 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA

Sure. Take away all things American. Isn't that what our lawmakers are working toward?


3 posted on 06/27/2005 11:07:37 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: OXENinFLA

I'm glad to see that Scalia opened his dissent with "On September 11, 2001..." At least he recognizes that our post 9/11 world needs faith along with bombs to defeat the evildoers.


4 posted on 06/27/2005 11:08:02 AM PDT by Right_at_RiceU (You don't need a gun to kill hippies, just soap or work.)
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Sorry for the ALL CAPS title, that's the way the e-mail was.....


5 posted on 06/27/2005 11:11:52 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: kjenerette

....reading.


6 posted on 06/27/2005 11:25:46 AM PDT by Van Jenerette (Our Republic...if we can keep it!)
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To: OXENinFLA

Thanks, Scalia's dissent is going to make some secularists mad. He's right though, we don't want to be like France.


7 posted on 06/27/2005 11:26:43 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: OXENinFLA

Maybe if we renamed them "The Ten Really Good Ideas" we could show them in public?


8 posted on 06/27/2005 11:26:49 AM PDT by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: wyattearp

Or Ten Suggestions...


9 posted on 06/27/2005 11:37:35 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: OXENinFLA

It's chiseled into the SCOTUS building. Guess they'll have to find a new court house...


10 posted on 06/27/2005 11:39:06 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: OXENinFLA

Moses holding the 10 Commandments front and Center of the U. S. Supreme Court building.

This is getting ridicules... what is it going to be next, take away our land rights? Oh wait, they did that last week...

11 posted on 06/27/2005 11:45:24 AM PDT by Txslady
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To: Txslady

Yes, what's interesting about that photo is the location of Moses and the 10 commandments on that building. The 10 commandmnets are not just located on the building, they are located smack dab right in the middle. Moses and the 10 commandments are given the most prestigous spot on that wall.


12 posted on 06/27/2005 12:06:04 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: pabianice

The Ten Commandments aren't "chiseled into the SCOTUS building."

Moses is pictured with blank tablets, right next to Confucius, Mohammed and Napoleon.


13 posted on 06/27/2005 12:06:11 PM PDT by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: OXENinFLA

"The touchstone for our analysis is the principle that the "First Amendment mandates governmental neutrality between religion and religion, and between religion and nonreligion."

This decision reeks, IMHO.
Giving credit for making a contribution to our legal and value system is not a betrayal of neutrality.


14 posted on 06/27/2005 12:11:03 PM PDT by Voir Dire (I'm seeing and saying.)
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To: OXENinFLA

Thank You .. this got lost in my comments page

Sean Hannity is reading this now


15 posted on 06/27/2005 12:27:26 PM PDT by Mo1 (Democrats Sold Out America ... just to regain power)
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To: highball


Wrong, part of it is chiseled into the SCOTUS building.

The one that is smack dab in the center of the building isn't chiseled, but it is Moses and he is holding the tablets.

You don't think the tablets are a representation of the 10 Commandments that he's holding?
16 posted on 06/27/2005 12:38:07 PM PDT by Txslady
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To: Txslady

Of course they are. But the Commandments themselves aren't chiseled onto the building, which pabianice said they are.

You're proving my point. His was that the Commandments were there in a religious context, mine that they were in an historical context. Moses is right there with Confucious, Hammurabi and Napoleon. It's no more an endorsement of Napoleon than it is the Ten Commandments.


18 posted on 06/27/2005 12:51:53 PM PDT by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: highball

Located on the entry doors of the Supreme Court there are two tablets with the roman numerals 1 through 10 engraved into the wood - what do you think those represent?


19 posted on 06/27/2005 1:00:09 PM PDT by Txslady
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To: Txslady

Like everything else carved into the door - the decalogue shown in an historical context.

Still a far cry from "chiseled into the SCOTUS building" as the original poster said.

Look, I admit that you're right. There are some representations of the decalogue's tablets in the SCOTUS building. Will you admit that I'm right, that they're there in an historical context along with other historical lawgivers and not for their specific religious content?


20 posted on 06/27/2005 1:07:38 PM PDT by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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