Posted on 06/27/2005 7:16:38 AM PDT by Carl/NewsMax
"Whether they can keep their eyes open is another question".
Checked your pictures out. Maybe they were praying.
I know alot of Masons who believe the Clintons are anti-American scum - I'm one of them.
Rev. Graham and his wife used to eat lunch occasionally in the Cafeteria at Montreat College. Montreat is the small mountain cove community wherein the Grahams live and in which the PCUSA Montreat Conference Center and Montreat College are located.
My wife ate with them a number of times -- & around the Hurricane Andrew saga in Miami in Aug/Sept '92 (looting, etc.) - Rev. Graham expressed his opinion that the looters should essentially be hobbled and/or shot to protect private property.
I suspect, as folks have suggested, that his age and neurological infirmities have simply taken the edge off of his thinking. Who knows.
In any event, Rev. Graham is not a Mason, nor is Bill Clinton. See the Famous Masons section at: http://www.masonicinfo.com
I agree. And don't forget, he is on a LOT of medication. The Klintonistas just took advantage of this dear old saint of God who is not at his finest hour any longer mentally and physically.
Oh, Please....how did the Clinton's exploit Graham? Graham is obviously a bit of a dolt...or a forgive and forget type...nothing to do with his age either. He "allowed" the Clintons on stage with him.
And the problem with that is???
Graham is just another huckster
With the Klinton's in whatever venue they appear at its always about THEM, isn't it?
I am not a fan of "crusade evangelism." Graham's own statistics indicate a 4% success rate -- 96% of those who "go forward" at his meetings never show up in church. The techniques perfected by American pelagian Charles G. Finney ("revivalism") are tailor-made for inducing false conversions.
Good for you!!! I have spoken with soooo many people that stay, complaining but staying, because it's "easier", or they have been in that church their whole lives etc.
Good to know there are those out there that will not bow to ecumenicalism.
It'll be interesting to see what Sean Hannity has to say, since he spent several days proclaiming what a great man Billy Graham is. Wonder if he'll be able to get his foot out of his mouth. It'll be interesting, too, to see if Franklin Graham has any comments. He seems a bit more conservative than his Dad.
>Graham is just another huckster<
Their is no evidence anywhere in his 60 years of ministry to support that statement in fact to the contrary.
There's a video out there somewhere. I think it shows the heads rolling and bobbing. Perhaps they were praying, but most folks agrees at the time they'd fallen asleep because of their "very busy schedules" and jet lag.
You are right Rev Graham is old and very ill. He has had parkinson's for quite a while,he has water on the brain and prostate cancer. He must be on tons of medication that probably alter normal thinking and he is terminal. When you are soon to leave this earth,you get very soft and emotional,and there was apparently nobody there to keep his comments from going off the deep end. His wife is also very ill. We should take all this in to consideration and not go into reactionary spazz mode insulting Masons,etc. It is a really sick thing Slickie and Hellery did,but that is what and who they are.
I saw Graham the other day talking to and praising Paul Crouch and his mega-haired wife, and that was almost as bad as watching him with Clinton. BG is clearly well past his prime, and probably should have hung up the Bible a few years ago.
NC ping
"And the problem with that is???"
The problem arises when he professes to be a member of the Body of Christ. Masonry at it's foundation asserts that there is a supreme being, and that all paths to that supreme being are equally effective. That's the problem; one cannot accept both premises, because they are 180 degrees out of agreement. Christ is the ONLY path.
As to Graham's masonry, photos of him in an apron (well adorned, but was it really his?) supposedly receiving his 33rd, are everywhere.
It wasn't ecumenicism, it was the pastor being naive enough to (sincerely!) have the exact reaction Clinton was planning and counting on people having when he uttered those words in the first place.
Anyway, I left the Episcopal Church at the same time I married and moved to another state, so believe me, I am poised for flight at this point. I hear one thing I don't like, I'm outie. :D
Shopping for a new church is probably going to be a very lengthy process.
Bill and Hillary remind me of Ananias and Sapphira in Acts 5:1-11. Read it for yourself. But just to tease your curiosity I present verse 10 ...
"Then immediately she fell down at his feet and breathed her last. And the young men came in and found her dead, and carrying her out, buried her by her husband."
Those two have heard the Gospel any number of times, and have made a mockery of it and God and His word their entire lives. Even the Lord will turn His back on you at some point, if the examples of Pharaoh and King Saul are any example. You mock Him repeatedly at your peril.
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