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China's nanotech revolution ("rivaling even the capacities of the United States")
AsianResearch.org ^ | Alexandr Nemets

Posted on 06/26/2005 9:28:11 PM PDT by BringBackMyHUAC

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News of the activities of the Eurasian Alliance, built on the back of Free Trade, is becoming more alarming with each passing day:

"Strategists within China's People's Liberation Army (PLA) understand perfectly well the significance of nanotechnologies in military reforms within the United States over the last twelve years. With this in mind, China has actively cooperated with leading nanotech companies in the United States and Europe. It seems reasonable to assume, also, that such cooperation is well underway with the Russian Federation."

1 posted on 06/26/2005 9:28:27 PM PDT by BringBackMyHUAC
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To: GOP_1900AD; Uncle George; mudblood; AnimalLover; hedgetrimmer; John Lenin; AnnaZ; zzen01; ...

Eurasian Alliance/Nanotech ping


2 posted on 06/26/2005 9:31:01 PM PDT by BringBackMyHUAC
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To: BringBackMyHUAC

I'm remaining sceptical and unimpressed by the hysteria about China, Inc.


3 posted on 06/26/2005 9:31:21 PM PDT by angkor
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To: RhoTheta

Ping.


4 posted on 06/26/2005 9:35:07 PM PDT by Egon (By the way, I took the liberty of fertilizing your caviar.)
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To: BringBackMyHUAC

It was only a matter of time before R & D took off in China. You don't manufacture without doing some R & D. Now that China has a steady stream of expendable funds, it's going to begin to make major strides in R & D.

The problem comes about, when one of these R & D developments impacts military readiness. If China's R & D developes state of the art weapons systems, we're going to rue the day we got them off and running.

We are ignoring so many warning signs in relation to China. One day our leaders will simply say, "We never thought they'd resort to this", and our populace will think that makes sense.

Our leaders are messing with fire when it comes to China. We are going to pay heavily for this. I probably won't, but my children and grandchildren most certainly will.


5 posted on 06/26/2005 9:37:06 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: angkor; BringBackMyHUAC

angkor is right on.
China manufacturing is a joke. Part of the Boeing contract is to have GE build engines in China to teach them how.
China wants to buidl 20 nukes to handle their energy needs. So who do they turn to? The US.
China is a paper tiger.
Btu I'd like to stop the nukes and the engine plant as well as Intel's plants in China.


6 posted on 06/26/2005 9:37:09 PM PDT by ProudVet77 (NASCAR - Because it's the way Americans drive.)
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To: BringBackMyHUAC

[mark for later read]


7 posted on 06/26/2005 9:37:14 PM PDT by Lexinom
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oh, bloody hell...


8 posted on 06/26/2005 9:37:21 PM PDT by King Prout (I'd say I missed ya, but that'd be untrue... I NEVER MISS)
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To: DoughtyOne
If China's R & D developes state of the art weapons systems, we're going to rue the day we got them off and running.

This presumes that we could have kept them from getting 'off and running'. That started over 20 years ago when they gave up on pure communism and started opening their economy to investment and trade.

Observe good faith and justice towards all nations; cultivate peace and harmony with all...

In the execution of such a plan, nothing is more essential than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular nations, and passionate attachments for others, should be excluded; and that, in place of them, just and amicable feelings towards all should be cultivated. The nation which indulges towards another a habitual hatred or a habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interest. Antipathy in one nation against another disposes each more readily to offer insult and injury, to lay hold of slight causes of umbrage, and to be haughty and intractable, when accidental or trifling occasions of dispute occur. Hence, frequent collisions, obstinate, envenomed, and bloody contests. The nation, prompted by ill-will and resentment, sometimes impels to war the government, contrary to the best calculations of policy. The government sometimes participates in the national propensity, and adopts through passion what reason would reject; at other times it makes the animosity of the nation subservient to projects of hostility instigated by pride, ambition, and other sinister and pernicious motives. The peace often, sometimes perhaps the liberty, of nations, has been the victim.

9 posted on 06/26/2005 9:45:00 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: BringBackMyHUAC

Yes, with enough of an economy and information (education) for its PLA and future PLA people (incl. exchange students), China's leaders can try to do what they want to do. There are many interests involved from all sides of the oceans, though (including our own), and they will disseminate what they wish others to believe. It's been building for almost 40 years, and consequences are now on the horizon.


10 posted on 06/26/2005 9:45:51 PM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: BringBackMyHUAC

Now I am worry about the 'gray-goo' effect. China might be crazy enough to create a nano-weapon.


11 posted on 06/26/2005 9:47:23 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: DoughtyOne
It was only a matter of time before R & D took off in China. You don't manufacture without doing some R & D. Now that China has a steady stream of expendable funds, it's going to begin to make major strides in R & D.

Simply put almost every major ChiCom weapon system has come from another country. Their best two ships are from Russia. China has no R&D. They make lousy copies of imported weapon systems, mostly from Russia. They still have no aircraft carriers. Their subs are at best mid 80s technology and will survive about 1 hour in a war.
Half their airforce is based on the MiG-21 which is a 1970's aircraft. Stealth is beyond them. They have no AWACS or any kind of integrated systems like Aegis or ForceNet.
12 posted on 06/26/2005 9:52:35 PM PDT by ProudVet77 (NASCAR - Because it's the way Americans drive.)
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To: Gunslingr3

So what you're saying is that nothing could be learned by trade with Germany and Japan in the decade prior to WWII.

Ah, nice one...

BTW, it's a little difficult to say we couldn't have stopped China, when we're the only nation that practices trade deficits with it, and probably eclipse the trade of all other nations combined by double.

I don't know the excact figures on the latter, and may be off. That's my basic understanding.


13 posted on 06/26/2005 9:52:53 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: ProudVet77

Thanks for the comments.


14 posted on 06/26/2005 9:54:40 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: BringBackMyHUAC
News of the activities of the Eurasian Alliance, built on the back of Free Trade, is becoming more alarming with each passing day:

On the other hand, America leads the world in the number of personal injury lawyers, homosexual psychological Societies, and actors. Soon we will have the means to send armies of lawyers to confuse the enemy, hordes of psychologists to convince the enemy to get sex change operations, and all of our actors to amuse them.

15 posted on 06/26/2005 9:58:32 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Some say what's good for others, the others make the goods; it's the meddlers against the peddlers)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

LOL! (or am I crying)...well, either way, you brought tears to my eyes :o)


16 posted on 06/26/2005 10:02:34 PM PDT by BringBackMyHUAC
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To: ProudVet77

This was one of Drudge's topics tonight. The ChiComs just launched 18 new submarines and 23 amphibious vehicles.

The concern is for the safety of Taiwan, and alarm at the Pentagon about the military buildup and the bid for Unocal. All financed, of course, using the revenue from the goods that they're selling to Walmart and others.


17 posted on 06/26/2005 10:12:03 PM PDT by bayareablues
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To: ProudVet77
China is a paper tiger

Maybe, but I use that paper to buy groceries. What do you use?

18 posted on 06/26/2005 10:35:52 PM PDT by itsahoot (If Judge Greer can run America then I guess just about anyone with a spine could do the same.)
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To: angkor

A Chinese responded by the talks of China-leading-the-world in Western MSMs like Fareed Zakaria's Newsweek article in May: "Well, the author probably doesn't speak Chinese. He believs all the glossy brochures printed in Beijing!"


19 posted on 06/26/2005 10:41:33 PM PDT by NZerFromHK ("US libs...hypocritical, naive, pompous...if US falls it will be because of these" - Tao Kit (HK))
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To: BringBackMyHUAC

A chinese nanospokesman announces the nanocreation of a new nanofactory in nanoshanghai which will produce nanonanotechnology.

well thats how the article read to me - far too many nano's


20 posted on 06/26/2005 10:56:51 PM PDT by bobdsmith
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