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Ground Zero Museum Fight Reveals Divide-(9/11 survivors protest marxist propaganda "museum")
SFGATE.COM ^ | JUNE 26, 2005 | MICHAEL WEISSENSTEIN, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 06/26/2005 7:49:36 PM PDT by CHARLITE

Rachel O'Brien has been concentrating on raising her three children since her husband was killed at the World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001. She hadn't given much thought to what would happen at ground zero.

But when she heard about plans for a museum that would place the attacks in the historical context of mankind's quest for freedom, she got political — joining more than 900 relatives of victims to sign a petition opposing the plan.

"I have no remains of my husband, and to me that's sacred ground," said O'Brien, 45, whose husband, Michael, worked for Cantor Fitzgerald. "That's the last place he was, and I think that the whole area should be all about what happened on that day."

The debate over the International Freedom Center museum is playing out on talk shows, opinion pages and the Web. Victims' relatives protested the museum last week at ground zero, and more than 16,000 people have signed the Internet petition condemning it.

Critics say the institution is being hijacked by left-wing advisers who blame the U.S. for the world's wrongs — and will focus on events with tenuous connection to the terrorist attacks, such as segregation in America and the Holocaust.

"I don't think that there should be anything else there but a memorial to those people," said retired New York building inspector Edmund Caviasco, 75, whose daughter, Jean De Palma, died in the trade center collapse.

George Pataki said he was demanding "an absolute guarantee" from ground zero cultural institutions that they would proceed "with total respect for the sanctity of that site."

"We're not going to let it turn into something anti-American, anti-freedom or questioning the values of New York, the values of America or the values of freedom," Pataki said.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; 911families; burlingame; center; debra; disputes; freedom; groundzero; international; leftiessuck; memorial; museum; nyc; wtcmemorial
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This is such a travesty of what the meaning of the memorial should be! How on earth did the liberal machine get their inappropriate "museum of marxist propaganda" past millions of us who would never approve of it?!
1 posted on 06/26/2005 7:49:39 PM PDT by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE

""9-11 should not be something you treat with kid gloves," said Fareed Zakaria, editor of Newsweek International and a principal adviser to the museum. "It should be something you debate, that you talk about, that we explore, that we use as a way to think about our position in the world.""

figures.


2 posted on 06/26/2005 7:58:29 PM PDT by Pikamax
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To: CHARLITE

Anti-Americans have infiltrated the arts, academia, the entertainment industry, the media, etc. This was inevitable.


3 posted on 06/26/2005 7:59:01 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (Do something nice for a Gitmo detainee: buy him a pit bull, for his cell.)
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To: CHARLITE

Obviously, "We will never forget!" didn't have the same lasting power as "Remember the Alamo!". Too many who said they would "never forget" forgot.


4 posted on 06/26/2005 8:01:33 PM PDT by nhoward14
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To: CHARLITE
I had not realized, before I read this article, that the head of the ACLU and one other anti-American left-wing activist had wormed their way into the leadership of this museum. With "leaders"like that, the museum will be an abomination.

Somebody has to have greater authority than them. They have to be fired, and replaced.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column: "An Open Letter to Justice Kennedy"

5 posted on 06/26/2005 8:02:44 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Anyone who takes the MSM seriously, deserves the likes of Dick Durbin.)
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To: CHARLITE
How on earth did the liberal machine get their inappropriate "museum of marxist propaganda" past millions of us who would never approve of it?!

Rachel O'Brien has been concentrating on raising her three children since her husband was killed at the World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001. She hadn't given much thought to what would happen at ground zero.

Your question is answered. Conservatives tend to work for a living (sorry Howard), and are often independent. Liberals are usually joiners, and are actively pursuing their goals (not sure how some of them make a living).

We look up from our labors and they have sneaked in everywhere (a bit like termites).

6 posted on 06/26/2005 8:03:07 PM PDT by Coyoteman
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To: nhoward14

Too many people don't want to have their comfortable world disturbed by reality.


7 posted on 06/26/2005 8:03:14 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (Do something nice for a Gitmo detainee: buy him a pit bull, for his cell.)
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To: CHARLITE

Maybe we should see that a MUSEUM for 9-11 is located in a MORE friendly ENVIRONMENT....say a RED STATE.....in the SOUTH.....We'd rather go THERE to visit anyway!


8 posted on 06/26/2005 8:04:40 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Our military......the world's HEROES!)
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To: CHARLITE
Blame on George Soros and the New York Times. After all, in the worldview of the Left today, two things stand out: America is the locus of modern evil and 9/11 was deserved punishment for her sins. Besides, everything that came after that is all Bush's fault. The more I think about it, the more I think Americans ought to really hear the Left's unhinged baloney about America, 9/11 and the War On Terror. It would expose millions of people to the way they think about our country. So let them have their museum. It would be a priceless education in the evils of self-hatred, nihilism, and appeasement.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
9 posted on 06/26/2005 8:08:49 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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"First there were concerns that this was going to be jingoistic and now there's this attack that we're a creature of the left."

Isn't it telling that a museum that simply commemorated the dead would, in the eyes of one of its board members somehow be "jingoistic"?

10 posted on 06/26/2005 8:10:14 PM PDT by Numbers Guy
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"I don't think that there should be anything else there but a memorial to those people"

This is the thing. That is all the should be there. As even radical lefty Ron Kuby said, remembering those people, their lives, is enough to fill a building, if a building it will be.


11 posted on 06/26/2005 8:13:49 PM PDT by jocon307 (Can we close the border NOW?)
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To: Pikamax
Fareed Zakaria,

Sounds like your average southern baptist I'm guessing /sarcasm.
12 posted on 06/26/2005 8:13:58 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Thanks for pointing that out- who is the ACLU guy?

tia


13 posted on 06/26/2005 8:15:48 PM PDT by DBrow (www.maps.org)
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To: Numbers Guy
The same people concerned about jingoism wouldn't even fly the flag on 9/11. The next time I hear the "p" word out of their mouths, I'll get surly. I'm had it with their protestations of patriotism. A smash and hit on your own doesn't qualify as a display of support for it, not in my book.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
14 posted on 06/26/2005 8:16:31 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: CHARLITE

I know that Jimrob has a prohibition against violence in posts so I will refrain from suggesting that anyone who would desecrate the names of those who were slaughtered in that attack should be pummeled.


15 posted on 06/26/2005 8:16:54 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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Where to begin on this one?

Let's see, I'll start with the name "International Freedom Center museum". That right there makes me want to puke.

Then the quote, "Creators of the museum say it will offer inspiring stories of mankind's progress toward liberty, and the controversy will dissolve when people understand the museum's goal of highlighting great moments in the worldwide struggle for freedom." Whose "progress towards liberty and struggle for freedom" are they talking about? Ours or the friggin terrorists?

Or the part that says, "But academic advisers to the museum — who include the heads of the American Civil Liberties Union and Human Rights First — envision something more complex and potentially controversial. Many see the International Freedom Center as a place to vigorously debate past and present issues of freedom, from slavery to the roots of the Sept. 11 attacks. "9-11 should not be something you treat with kid gloves," said Fareed Zakaria, editor of Newsweek International and a principal adviser to the museum. "It should be something you debate, that you talk about, that we explore, that we use as a way to think about our position in the world."

And I didn't know that Bernstein, the International Freedom Center's founder is also the president of Human Rights First, who has sued Rumsfeld over alleged mistreatment of U.S. military detainees! So they BOMB us and this POS Bernstein defends their treatment at Club Gitmo???

These libs must really get off throwing this crap in our faces. For anyone interested, here's where you can sign the petition against making that spot anything but a memorial to those who died there on 9/11:

http://www.takebackthememorial.com/


16 posted on 06/26/2005 8:17:30 PM PDT by LibSnubber (liberal democrats are domestic terrorists)
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To: CHARLITE

911 affected everyone in this country but when it comes to the memorial it should be designed or at least approved by people that lost loved ones on that horrible day....less is more ie: the Viet Nam memorial...simple but powerful


17 posted on 06/26/2005 8:19:56 PM PDT by Kimmers
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To: CHARLITE

Just exactly who are THEY. Any names?


18 posted on 06/26/2005 8:20:42 PM PDT by marty60
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To: CHARLITE

Agreed.
The Twin Towers were destroyed because this country has tolerated our enemies. Carter and Clinton are directly responsible for the rise and empowerment of Al Queda and the Islamist mafia. It is their squishy ethics that has permitted the rise of consummate evil. The idiot minions of these wimpy presidents are hard at work seeking to justify their cowardice.
Make no mistake. The real war against terrorism will not be fought with bullets. It is a war of ideas and the enemy seeks to destroy this great nation with a cesspool of lies.
The very idea that Ground Zero could be suggested as a site to advance morally bankrupt ideology is the clear work of the enemy. Such thinking must be rooted out of our society and consigned to the dungheap of failed ideologies.
Liberalism is, after all, a profoundly dangerous mental illness.


19 posted on 06/26/2005 8:23:50 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE)
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To: CHARLITE

Has Kristen Breitweiser weighed in on this yet? I expect she'd support anything that put the blame on Bush.


20 posted on 06/26/2005 8:24:29 PM PDT by RedRover
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