Posted on 06/23/2005 8:06:55 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
Everybody knows about the shot that was heard around the world as the birthing pains of this once great nation. Today, sadly, we may have heard it's death knell.
It did not come with violence or shots fired. It came with the virtual elimination of personal property rights.
Our founding fathers knew how important the ownership of property was and sought to protect the right to be secure in the ownership of property to the extent that they enshrined the guarantee that property would not be taken for public use without due process and just compensation.
For over 200 years it was understood that "public use" meant that the ownership would transfer from the private owner to the local, state, or federal government for things such as military bases, roads, schools, prisons, etc. Now, the meaning of "public use" has been altered by 5 people who were never elected to office and in all reality, are completely unaccountable to anyone, to mean privately owned condos, shopping centers, and business parks under the thin guise that those enterprises would contribute more tax money to the coffers, thus increasing the "public good"
Justice Stevens, writing for the majority said that judges should give city councils and state legislatures "broad latitude in determining what public needs justify the use of the takings power," he added. To make sure that he wasn't misunderstood he added, "The city has carefully formulated a development plan that it believes will provide appreciable benefits to the community, including, but not limited to, new jobs and increased tax revenue," and just destroyed any pretence that you have any recourse whatsoever if the government or county decides that they want your property for any reason at all.
Sandra Day O'Connor writing a scathing dissent correctly said that now rich and politically land developers and businesses could basically take your land away from you with the help from the local government. Yes, you could fight it in court, but it is now fruitless as you are guaranteed to lose in a fixed fight.
For years the people have for the most party sat quietly as the government stole more and more freedoms from us. Prior to 1914 and fool could take any drug he or she wanted and kill themselves, thus increasing the quality of the gene pool for the rest of us. Before 1918, the government had no claim to your wages and could not tax them. Prior to 1934, Sears sold machine guns from their catalog and nobody thought anything about it. Prior to the 1950's preachers could freely endorse or denigrate any political candidate they wanted, just as had been done since the very first town government was formed in this country almost 350 years prior. Since 1986 it has been illegal to manufacture and sell a machine gun to a civilian despite the fact that in the past several decades the number of people int he US murdered by a person with a machine gun has been exactly one, and the person doing the shooting was a police officer using a gun issued to the police department.
But hope is not lost however, ownership of real property does a funny thing to people. It is a spot that a person can say, "This land is MINE!" with a dedication and a fierceness that is somewhat scary. Religion and politics and abortion and the WOT all take a back seat when two neighbors are faced with having their property stolen by the government.
Maybe that bell sounding isn't the death knell but the alarm.
Maybe this will awake the sheeple to realize that the socialist have gone too far.
Maybe the bell is just signalling round two of the Revolutionary War.
Will this war be fought with bullets or ballots?
We shall see.
not at all, and if you mix that issue with this ruling today, you are going to play right into the hands of the people who support this ruling.
private property rights doesn't mean my neighbor can tear down their single family house and build a 50 story skyscraper there, or a porno movie theatre, or a garbage dump. if that's what you believe "property rights" means, you are way off base. zoning laws are zoning laws, eminent domain is eminent domain.
To Hillarys Gate Cult and to-zion
Thank you for the Info! Saw this first thing this morning but just got home.........Was really worried, will try to find the other links and news!
I know most people I know are still unaware of the ramifications of this, and word is sloooooly getting out. Will people care? Sadly, I doubt it.
Well, it was nice here, while it lasted. The country I was born in no longer exists.
I was planning on buying a home in the next few years, but if this stands, I don't see the point, unless I research it to death and find a patch of land somewhere with 0% commercial value.
Nah, why bother. The state and Feds will just tax me to death more.
Yeah; and just try exercising your second amendment rights to defend your property when the greedy bureaucrats want it and see who comes out on top in that fight. Hint: it will be under color of law enforcement.
Well I'm a real estate agent I could help you out! Buttttttt now that I think about it what if somewhere in the future there is a commercial possibility what are my ramifications???? Never mind I can't help you!
Don't wait around for those who would take your property from you. Hunt down the ones who sent them. That's precisely what I will do.
Any New Zealand Freepers out there that can recommend it? Would you mind a bunch of hard-working conservative people moving there? Are you still overrun by orcs?
*Sigh*. It's a nice idea, and if I were older, I'd consider it. Unfortunately, I'll probably feel the need to stay and fight for freedon (wherever there's trouble).
Thank you! Thank you! I have been trying to remember this one all day. You forgot one little detail, though. This was a drug raid. Remember, if they want your land, all they have to do is accuse you of selling or using dope.
There are MANY cases here in CA where this has happened. I just wonder what takes them so long to go after run down crack houses? /sarcasm
hillary will probably use this against the republicans in '08.
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no they are not. how about building codes, are they unconstitutiuonal too?
you are nuts, with all due respect. there is no constitutional right for my neighbor turning their house into a garbage dump or porno theater, and I don't want them to be able to conduct construction that causes their home to blow up or catch on fire. however, that does not mean I think the government can exercise eminent domain against my neighbor home just because they want to. these are two totally different issues.
The thread is now almost 1700 replies.
We have only one recourse. Use every legal means to remove every public official from office who participates in one of these land grab deals. Just because it's legal doesn't make it right.
"I have no reason to suppose that he, who would take away my Liberty, would not when he had me in his Power, take away everything else." -John Locke
"Among the natural rights of the colonists are these: First a right to life, secondly to liberty, thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can." -Sam Adams
"Among the natural rights of the colonists are these: First a right to life, secondly to liberty, and thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can" -Sam Adams
"Property is surely a right of mankind as real as liberty." -John Adams
"Property is more than the thing which a person owns. It is elementary that it includes the right to acquire, use, and dispose of it. The Constitution protects these essential attributes of property .... There can be conception of property aside from its control and use, and upon its use depends its value." -Supreme Court decision, 1917
"They have erected a system of national land-use regulation that brings minimal ecological benefits and substantial harm to the liberties of Americans." -Richard Miniter
"The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only object of good government." -Thomas Jefferson
agree! where is the other thread?
bttt
"Among the natural rights of the colonists are these: First a right to life, secondly to liberty, thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can." -Sam Adams
"Among the natural rights of the colonists are these: First a right to life, secondly to liberty, and thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can" -Sam Adams
IT WAS WORTH REPEATING TWICE!
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