Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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[PBRSTREETGANG]

"Each day leaders had to assess their chances of finding Holloway against how much money they had to continue working, said Marish, declining to give funding details."

http://www.texasequusearch.org/

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NEW THREAD - #4

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1433901/posts

 

 

[texasbluebell]

Linking this here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1433452/posts

Let’s Just Stay Home: - (good advice from a "great AMERICAN," Charlie Daniels!)

CHARLIE DANIELS.COM ^ | JUNE 27, 2005 | CHARLIE DANIELS

The disappearance of an 18-year-old girl from Alabama in Aruba is not only terrifying, but a harbinger of just how much danger Americans expose themselves to when they step outside the boundaries of the U.S.A.

more at link

[beyond the sea]

This over time will erode their tourist business. Not immediately, but over time. ---- Aruba is far away, it is a long long flight. I predict people will go to other places. British and American.

Aruba can kiss tourism goodbye after this!

Maybe they can open up a Marlboro cigarette plant.

[twigs]

I've been wondering whether or not Daddy is really the perp. Joran knows or suspects, but I have to wonder whether or not its Dad. Joran seems to me to be an out-of-control partier, but not a murderer. I think the Kalpoe brothers agreed to lie because they didn't know a murder was involved. And they were possibly intimated by Daddy's being a player in the legal system there. Possibly they are being held because they can supply more info, but I don't personally think they're responsible for Natalee's disappearance or the subsequent cleanup. I've wondered if Daddy is letting his son take the rap for his misdeeds.

[MIDad23]

I read somewhere that Condi herself was involved initially to get FBI onto the island.

[stlnative]

Please lock this thread and please link to the new thread at
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1433901/posts

Thank you...

[demkicker]

Dk, I called Congressman Jo Bonner, Ist District, Alabama and requested what ever he could do to help in this miscarriage of justice. NSNR

Good for you, NSNR. Please call Shelby's office too. There cannot be enough outcries from all of us. It will make an impression and is very important.

[demkicker]

Again I'll ask, does anyone know what it will take to get the cadaver dogs in to search the VDS property?

[Malichi]

Yeah, CG, let him come to th good ole USA. He would probably hit someone's baseball bat with his head until he croaked. Personally I would like to see his knees jump up and hit two .45 cal 165 gr Hydra-Shok bullets traveling at approx. 1022 feet per second.
TAW

[twigs]

You may have hit it. At least close to the truth. It's seemed to me all along that the authorities were more concerned about hiding things than helping the Holloway investigation. As though they were more frightened by what they did know than by what they did not.

['61 Libertarian]

After JVDS was done having his way with the incapacitated N, she had a bad reaction to the drugs that had been put in her drinks and died. JVDS panicked and called PVDS. PVDS helped him gather the body and store it at a safe location until arrangements could later be made to dispose of N's body. JVDS and PVDS are both very confident that N's body won't be found because they paid someone to take her body far out to sea and dispose it where it will never be found.

We know this, PVDS and JVDS had to involve others to complete the deed. Somebody on Aruba has more information. If the reward amount were increased by large donations, to a sum that is so tempting, you would be surprised what kind of information that you will get. The LE may have to grant immunity from prosecution for any accomplice that comes forward with information. When you think about what happened to N . . .Occam's Razor. Forget all of those wild, complicated stories about the drug cartels or the sex slave industry.

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NEW THREAD - #4

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1433901/posts

 

 

[cajungirl]

Dude, you are way too graphic for me.

[twigs]

...this bar has a terrible reputation right? It is known that if you slip the bartenders a little cash they will slip some ruffies into a drink for you

At the beginning of the investigation, C&C hired a spokeswoman from the US. She was terrible and kept leaving me with questions of why they needed her. I've heard several reports of other woman who had similar experiences (except that they returned) from C&C. I do wonder if they have a background that bears investigating...

[twigs]

Dave Holloway has impressed me--a lot. He's soft spoken, but a real trooper--working tirelessly behind the scenes. This entire family reminds me of how much Natalee was loved. So very sad.

[sodpoodle]

prodigal son?

[USF]

Heheh... Thanks. ;oP

[onyx]

Yep, they definitely have an "undercurrent known only to them" (as you put it). I know this for a fact, because my daughter was dumb enough to marry a local 15 years ago, and even he has said the 3 will stick together unless her body is found. It all goes back to PVDS's sage advice: no body - no crime.

[onyx]

GOOD calls, demkicker! Well done.
When I fully awake I'll give Lott a call. Caller ID will prove to him I am a constituent.