Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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[dc-zoo]

Well the VDS family have their orders to lie, scheme, or whatever they need to hide the facts of this case and most likely Natalee's murder. My heart goes out to Beth.

[Canadian Outrage]

You know what Dark Skies, I like Mark Furhman. I always thought he got a raw deal. That racial CRAP was just that, crap. That was a defense tactic and the other detectives seemed to have a jealousy problem. There is no question that he is and was a very good investigator. He's a good family man and he's an excellent writer. That issue of the use of the "N" word really was used in the context of doing a "play" or some literary work. I thought the woman that exposed that stuff as if it were his common, every day practice was a real pos!! Mark even had black couples come forward to vouch for him that they were friends with him and his wife. But that's just my opinion.

[cajungirl]

I agree with you. Mark got hosed.

[cajungirl]

Joran to Momma: If you had been here this wouldn't have happened.

Joran to Twittys et al: Nat came on to me. Nat gambled away her father's money. Nat was drinking. Nat was drugging. Nat wanted sex. Nat was crazy.

Joran,,,it is all about him until the moment of reckoning. Then it is all someone else's fault.

He is a manipulative psychopath.

[Canadian Outrage]

You hit the nail on the head dc-zoo!! That's exactly what's going on here. I can't imagine what Beth is going through. Can any of us imagine the depth of the heartbreak, coupled with the extreme frustration of dealing with such open corruption and collusion? I'm beginning to think that Justice may have to be done by God on this one.

[Canadian Outrage]

Well I'm finally leaving my office now. BBL guys if I can. CO

[Dark Skies]

Me too.

[NCjim]

This is a very dangerous truth. The island can't speak of it. I suspect that this thing goes much deeper than we know. I suspect the truth is quite different that we imagine.

I think you are right.

[HoHoeHeaux]

Or it'spossibly yet another lie cooked up by the 'family' and the boys.

[TexKat]

snippet of Deepak's e-mail:

Let see where to start i don't even know where to begin these last days where so crazy for me i'm very tired haven't slept good in days : The story starts sunday night when a friend of mine was playing poker at a local casino (in the holiday inn) after he won the poker at the fourth place he decided to get up and play some blackjack so he went to the blackjack table and there was natalee (they were a lil drunk ) so my friend started playing blackjack and he was winning quite good , so then natalee approached him and introduced herself and said to him'' your a lucky guy , can you help me win some of my money back i lost $ 360 , of my fathers money'' so my friend said ok , why not . so he started playing and he won 100 $ for her back and he said hey thats the best i can do for you because i doubt it i can win more money for you so its better i quit so she said ok but at least let me buy you a drink so they went to the bar (in the casino ). so they took a drink and started talking etc. about school, the vacation etc.etc.

Riehl World

[Pepper777]

Drive safe, Canadian.

[cajungirl]

Goodnight all. God may have to deal with this one.

[stlnative]

TexKat I had to leave the room, so I will have to rewatch Greta later tonight and I will post my notes later and my thoughts about what was learned tonight. I do believe the emails from Deepak are real (as in they were written by Deepak) - it sounds to me that Joran also told Deepak about the gambling money story that Natalee "may" have lost. The gambling money story is probably another lie that Joran and his father cooked up and then passed on to the Deepak and Satish. (because Deepak and Satish were not at the Holiday Inn casino with Joran, Natalee or Paulus).

[Pepper777]

I wonder who authored that sack of LIES, email. Probably the Dad and the Son, with the brothers agreeing to go along with it.

[auboy]

That story is also in an e-mail that Deepak had sent to one of his friends that is in circulation on the net.

Sounds like a well rehearsed play. Daddy VDS is the director.

Also, Juran being out again the night of May 30-31, could add to the timeline of when and what they did with Natalee. More hours of darkness to hide her.

I don't believe a word these bad actors have to say. It's all fiction.

[TexKat]

Jossy Mansur said that PVDS will be leaving Aruba around the 15th of July, PVDS's contract is up.

[Dark Skies]

Thx, Jim...just a theory, but I hope I am wrong!

[Pepper777]

Nite Cajungirl.

I agree. Only God can sort this mess out.

[TexKat]

This is a very dangerous truth. The island can't speak of it. I suspect that this thing goes much deeper than we know. I suspect the truth is quite different that we imagine.

This has been my thought all along.

[Jrabbit]

ack! I have to watch Greta rerun at 2am! Been trying to lock in a low interest rate on student loans...rate goes up tomorrow at midnight....#$%&*@#

Thanks for posting the pics of the perp. He has dead eyes.