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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923


Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.


Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.


PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)



I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE


Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)


This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.




TOPICS: US: Alabama; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: arrestedpaulvds; aruba; corruption; croes; daterapedrug; deepak; dutch; ghb; holloway; joran; kidnapped; mafia; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; roofies; satish; sloot; tourism; travel; vandersloot
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To: TAquinas


I like your tagline. B-16 has my heart. I absolutely adore our Pope.


4,241 posted on 06/28/2005 9:50:31 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: HoHoeHeaux
Thanks HoHoeHeaux.

There goes Dan again picking up pieces of info from various websites and news outlets stringing them together in order to create his nightly post.

4,242 posted on 06/28/2005 9:54:59 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: onyx

Nope.

Now that you are back, maybe good things will start to happen for the parents.


4,243 posted on 06/28/2005 9:56:00 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: TexKat

Yes. His nightly wrapup!


4,244 posted on 06/28/2005 9:57:06 PM PDT by HoHoeHeaux
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To: Cate
Rick has a blog! Oh great. I think I kind of drolled over him ever since the road to Baghdad.

Lord, was I sitting on the edge of my seat praying for his safety. LOL!

4,245 posted on 06/28/2005 9:58:04 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

I do not think that Beth used the word air conditioning




You're right. Beth said well ventilated.


4,246 posted on 06/28/2005 9:58:22 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Dolphy

I believe blackmail has been discussed Dolphy, as well as other scenarios. However the #1 is JVDS and PVDS involvement in Natalee's disappearance as you well know.


4,247 posted on 06/28/2005 10:04:47 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: presently no screen name

Bump :)


4,248 posted on 06/28/2005 10:05:36 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: demkicker

Thanks for your pings, dear one. :-)


4,249 posted on 06/28/2005 10:05:59 PM PDT by Gracey
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To: kcvl

Greta's show was great tonight.

I couldn't get online earlier because of a big thunderstorm here.

Greta really ran all over Croes. She caught him in his lies.

Aruban investigators should slap a deputy's badge on Greta and let her in th jailhouse to grill Joran an Deepak. I bet she'd get the truth out of them in an hour.

Mickey John is very well-spoken, and is a credible witness. I hope his statements about "the family" concocting the Holiday Inn drop-off story will get Paulua re-arrested.

Marianne Croes is a little parrot. I wish Greta would not give her the time of day.

The Aruban newspaper lady is an idiot and a Van der Sloot plant.

I like Mickey John's attorney. I'd like to see her as a FOX legal expert instead of some of the hags they have on retainer. That gal is brainy and beautiful.

The segment with Beth going over Natalee's belongings was heartwrenching.

Nat had her driver's license with her. Maybe someone will find it either at the beach or at the VDS property. And what about her jewelry? Why haven't the Holloways shown a close-up picture of her earrings and necklace on TV? Was she also wearing a watch? Someone might recognize the jewelry. And tell who has it now.



4,250 posted on 06/28/2005 10:13:55 PM PDT by Palladin (God Bless America!)
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To: All

Please excuse my numerous typos. It's past 1 a.m. here on the east coast, and I am going to bed.

I will say a few extra prayers tonight that by some miracle of God Natalee will be found tomorrow.

Goodnight, all.


4,251 posted on 06/28/2005 10:20:55 PM PDT by Palladin (God Bless America!)
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To: Palladin

From your keyboard...


4,252 posted on 06/28/2005 10:23:05 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Palladin

That's a good idea about the jewelry. Maybe the perp pawned it. For some gambling money.


4,253 posted on 06/28/2005 10:29:50 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: presently no screen name


That's such a sweet sentiment. Thank you. I keep praying for the family.


4,254 posted on 06/28/2005 10:46:50 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: TexKat

And here is Julia’s original letter to Rick from Texas:

Hi Rick,

I just spoke to Fox and all I was reassured that O’Reilly ‘retracted’ (the actual word went over my head) all of the statements made by Geraldo.

I was on with O’Reilly last night when he suggested that our Prime Minister was an idiot, but do you really think that the President of the United States gets involved in Police Cases? NO! Actually it would be illegal for a politician to get involved or be abreast of any details of Police investigation - same as in the US. Duh, I honestly don’t think O’Reilly is an idiot - he is obviously acting like one to get ratings.

Once again, I don’t know what happened to Natalee, and I’m not sure that anyone does! If van der Sloot or the others had any involvement in her death or disappearance they will be punished and justice will be served.

There is in no way what so ever that Arubans think that there is a cover up or that v/d Sloot’s father has any pull. It is to the contrary!

He is a civil servant and lives in a middle class neighborhood and drives a Honda? There is a great amount of wealth on this island and the v/d Sloots are not part of it. Taxi drivers probably make more than the judge!

As for Dutch influence. No way! An Aruban would never stick the neck of an entire nation for anyone - much less a Dutch national. The suggestion is ridiculous. Arubans are extremely honest by nature - all of this hype is made up by the international press trying to get ratings. Nothing more, nothing less.

I am sure there is no DVD otherwise v/d Sloot would have been hung out to dry with the local press as well.

Julia Renfro

Editor-in-Chief

Aruba Today


4,255 posted on 06/28/2005 11:01:08 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: txrangerette
My description of Paulus is not really about being right or wrong, just questioning. I also do find it odd that he looks a mess while his son was consistently described as being arrogant, calm, cool, etc. prior to his arrest. As for why he may be blackmailed, I suppose it could be anything from debts to some sort of illegal to unseemly activity he was engaged in and threatened with exposure. The only difference in terms of the competing theories is that he may have been "caused" to facilitate an abduction as opposed to being involved in a death.

Now throw in the political ramifications that Geraldo talked about tonight and it makes you wonder, is this all about a wealthy Kennedy-like kid who they have been trying to cover up for or is there something different that they don't want exposed.

Anyway, I was just wondering if the idea had been discussed and discarded.

4,256 posted on 06/28/2005 11:04:52 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: TexKat

Friend of Monkey Talks to Mickey John
June 28th, 2005 by Scared Monkeys -->

Before you watch Greta … see what Friend of Monkey has to say about her conversation with Mickey John.


I just got off phone with Mickey John.
Greta was at his house today and he may be on tonight.
I asked him if Deepak told him, he said “I never should have left her with Joran”

HE SAID NO, NEVER.


Deepak did say to him that he and Saish dropped NH and Joran off at the Marriot after he lighthouse. Then Deepak said he and Satish went home.

The whole thing he said about Holiday Inn was a lie that the VDS “family”
made up and asked Deepak and Satish to agree to. As far as what Deepak meant by the VDS “family” he doesn’t know if it includes “Tom Dick or Harry” to quote Mickey John. Also Mickey did believe that Deepak was telling truth. Deepak was sorry to have supported the family lie as it landed him in jail.
I may miss show… Thanks


4,257 posted on 06/28/2005 11:08:00 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl
what so ever

Julie, Julie, Julie; get a dictionary.

4,258 posted on 06/28/2005 11:17:36 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
That's the least of her problems. lol! She is an idiot.
4,259 posted on 06/28/2005 11:28:53 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Howlin

Julia Renfro, editor of Aruba Today, said the English-language newspaper received 250 e-mails about race in Aruba after the detention of the black men, but none came from within Aruba. Renfro, a white American who has lived here for 15 years, said black Americans were jumping to false conclusions.

"It's not like the Dutch people walk around and order Arubans around," Renfro said.


4,260 posted on 06/28/2005 11:33:26 PM PDT by kcvl
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