Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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[kcvl]

Hannity & Colmes: Jugs friend from Atlanta with the voice analysis device is in Aruba. Jug has asked the Aruba LE if this device can be used as an interrogation tool and Jug stated that he believed the Aruban LE is in agreement.

I don't think that will ever happen. I also don't think the Aruban government cares if this case is solved or not. They just want Natalee's family off of their island. I will never step foot in Aruba nor will any of my money as long as I am aware of it.

[cajungirl]

A flaw in your forgiving scenario.

They came out, they were told Nat was missing, they were asked where she was, then they got into telling the son not to answer, being unhelpful and rude.

Making excuses for this isn't washing. You see this is not some bad neighborhood in the Bronx. This is Aruba, The sloots knew the cops, they knew who these people were.

[CheneyChick]

That was just too eerie as Nat's mom and Greta were going through the room and N's stuff.

[TexKat]

Greta and Beth showing Natalee's purse and wallet. In the wallet was multiple one dollar bills that Beth had given Natalee and Natalee's passport.

Natalee's drivers license was not there.

Beth stated that she believes that Natalee is still on the island (Aruba).

[kcvl]

To: Toespi
I found Jug Twitty to be petty and self-absorbed which was my observation and opinion and frankly, I am ususally right.

You aren't right about that.
3,942 posted on 06/28/2005 6:44:33 PM PDT by kcvl

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Natalee's aunt if a friend of mine. I will defend them every time you state something that you think is right but I know it isn't.

[elli1]

to the mother of a missing daughter.

Understanding the mother of the missing daughter is easy. More challenging is understanding the situation from the other parent's POV.

Being something of a hothead where protecting my own children is concerned, I can understand Natalee's parents. But I can also understand how PVDS might have/ probably did feel in the situation that presented on his doorstep at 3 a.m.

I think that the Holloways' handled that initial encounter badly--given the descriptions that we have of that morning. I understand the impulse to act as they did. Completely. But it was not the best way or even the preferred way to greet a situation where what you want is the cooperation of the person you're meeting.

[TexKat]

I don't think that will ever happen.

Neither do I.

[cajungirl]

We have your number.

[kcvl]

That was just too eerie as Nat's mom and Greta were going through the room and N's stuff

Beth is getting very depressed. She has lost a lot of hope of every finding her daughter. She knows there is just so much that she and her family and friends can do to find her. Without any help from the government officials there isn't much else they can do on their own. Unless the search team comes up with something they are at a stand still. Juran isn't going to talk after his father told him to shut up. I'm sure his father has explained to him that as long as he doesn't say anything they can't charge him.

It's sickening.

[kcvl]

Seems as though Jug wants it all.

All he wants is his daughter. He will be glad to get the hell out of that place with just her body!

[Pepper777]

They even got the DJ, Croes to support the Holiday Inn Lie, too. My question - How does someone have that much power over others, to get them to LIE to the police. Very stange, imo.

Greta is covering the Lies on her show right now. Hope she gets some answers. I felt so sad for Beth tonight. She was giving Greta a tour of Natalee's room and belongings. Her little voice sounded so depressed, which is so understandable.

Prayers for Natalee and her precious family.

[cajungirl]

Of course we will all bow to your superior manner of handling things when your daughter is missing in a foreign country.

I have watched your posts from the beginning. You never fail to get an edgewise nasty comment in about the Holloways. You are not as obvious as some, but you are transparent.

And rather full of yourself.

[Toespi]

Incidentally, I have never been to Aruba and I can account for my whereabouts the evening Natalee went missing, so get off my back. Do not misuse another post of mine. Friend of the family or not, if you choose to quote me do it in it's entirety, not what fits your purpose.

[Howlin]

Croes didn't know ANY of the other three? He said nobody asked him to do it? He just did it?

[kcvl]

Greta just interviewed the Croes guy. He said he didn't know any of them. But he made up a lie to cover for them. No this isn't a cover up. /sarcasm

[Toespi]

You did it again kcvl. Just what is your problem?

[spectre]

Steve Croes says he doesn't know ANY of the three boys. He made up an alibi for three guys he doesn't know, according to him. Says he just wanted to be a nice guy.

Chew on that one..

[TexKat]

Steve Croes told Greta that he does not know any of the 3, he does not know Deepak, Satish, or Joran. Croes stated he was/is a client of the internet cafe but does not Deepak personally.

[Carolinamom]

He should be locked up for interfering w/an investigation.

[Howlin]

You have done nothing except trash this family for the last seven days.