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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923


Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.


Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.


PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)



I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE


Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)


This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.




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KEYWORDS: arrestedpaulvds; aruba; corruption; croes; daterapedrug; deepak; dutch; ghb; holloway; joran; kidnapped; mafia; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; roofies; satish; sloot; tourism; travel; vandersloot
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To: Velveeta

Sure, I have a 32 year old son and a 22 year old daughter. I am a Christian woman who loves her family, country and God. I am also sick and tired of being berated because I have an opinion of one event that I think reeks. Howlin, I am not from the South, but I do have money. I have five ancestors who fought, three of which died, in the American Revolution, do I pass muster?


3,801 posted on 06/28/2005 3:56:29 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Lizarde

No, not done, but I will complete everything tomorrow because my sweet, ex-dil, whom I LOVE, is coming over to help me. She is the best worker imaginable.

I agree with the SP and SP parents comparison. I know Jackie and Lee knew that SP murdered Laci, but hey, Laci was expendable too, even the baby.

I'm just certain, Natalee is seen by the murderer and his family as an expendable American tourist girl, not worth ruining the kid's bright future. If I'm wrong about JVDS abd his family, it's only because they are acting guilty.


3,802 posted on 06/28/2005 3:57:50 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: monkeywrench

Exactly. This family did NOT want to provide answers. You are right, they wanted Beth to "go away" and being a desperate mother, she wasn't about to do so. It only makes sense. Where do you start to look for your missing child except with the LAST KNOWN person to be with them? Pretty logical imo!


3,803 posted on 06/28/2005 3:58:39 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: Toespi

You're right; I don't know the facts and you don't know the facts.

The vast majority of us have been TRYING to find out the facts -- because that is what WE DO around here.

But you're taking a different tack, I notice; the only two times I've seen you on these threads, you've been trashing the PARENTS.

Very revealing, IMO.


3,805 posted on 06/28/2005 3:59:43 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Canadian Outrage

That as the man who said Natalee was dead early on.


3,806 posted on 06/28/2005 4:00:40 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: the Deejay

OKAY!! Thanks for the correction. Anyway, Paul Van der S. had just asked this man for a job.


3,807 posted on 06/28/2005 4:01:09 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: the Deejay

OKAY!! Thanks for the correction. Anyway, Paul Van der S. had just asked this man for a job.


3,808 posted on 06/28/2005 4:02:50 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: Howlin

No, I never attacked the parents, I thought the statements and interviews by Jug have been petty and counter productive, not to mention the name calling. He wasn't on that island 24 hours and called PVDS a slimeball. Since what you do around here is find the facts, tell me once where I trashed the parents.


3,809 posted on 06/28/2005 4:04:11 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Toespi

Sorry, Toespi. I can't agree.

If upset parents arrived at my house in the middle of the night, wanting to know where thier daughter was, I would track my son down immediately, and demand that he help in any way he could, and fess up OR ELSE!

And, I have raised two boys. Had a girl, drunk, trying to sneak into our house to hook up with one of them. I know about teenagers and the stupid messes they get into.

We are parents. We supervise, and call them on the carpet when they screw up. That is our job, like it or not.

The VanDerSloots owed more to the Holloways than telling Joran to "shut up". I would have demanded one of my sons to 'fess up', get his pants on, and help search for the girl. If he pulled one of those "who, me?" routines, I would have called the "polis" myself.


3,810 posted on 06/28/2005 4:04:23 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: Howlin

I just got on the computer. Have been away from the TV and computer all day. Did I miss anything posted on here referring to Natalee's death?? I just read this on riehlworldview.com. :


Natalee Holloway Is Dead
A reliable source from Aruba throughout my reporting has informed me that Natalee Holloway has now been confirmed as deceased, her Father is traveling to the location of the body. My thoughts and prayers go out to the family.


3,811 posted on 06/28/2005 4:04:55 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: Velveeta

Hey Vel, how have you been??


3,812 posted on 06/28/2005 4:05:09 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: jacquej
I never attacked the parents

You are aware, aren't you, that we can actually SEE and READ and COMPREHEND things you post on this thread, aren't you?

3,813 posted on 06/28/2005 4:05:12 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Canadian Outrage
Paul Van der S. had just asked this man for a job.

Which makes sense, b/c PVDS is out of a job and his line of work is in the justice system.

3,814 posted on 06/28/2005 4:05:34 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: jacquej

AHHHHHHHHHHHH.......I didn't mean to post that to you!!


3,815 posted on 06/28/2005 4:06:06 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: toldyou

What is the date of the article that you just posted from Riehl World?


3,816 posted on 06/28/2005 4:06:26 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Toespi
I never attacked the parents

You are aware, aren't you, that we can actually SEE and READ and COMPREHEND things you post on this thread, aren't you?

3,817 posted on 06/28/2005 4:06:37 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

lol, Howlin. I know how that happens. Done it a few times myself!


3,818 posted on 06/28/2005 4:08:18 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: jacquej

I apologize PROFUSELY again, jacquej!


3,819 posted on 06/28/2005 4:08:19 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Toespi

Toespi,

Did you make more than the one comment?

I disagreed with it, but this PILING ON is what I find disturbing - almost psychotic.

Kind regards to you for sticking to your guns. It was, after all, just an opinion on the topic. Thereafter, you have been personally insulted, which I believe is much worse and diminishes the forum.

But that's just my opinion;)

sp


3,820 posted on 06/28/2005 4:08:23 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Newbie, PhD.)
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