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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923


Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.


Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.


PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)



I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE


Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)


This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.




TOPICS: US: Alabama; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: arrestedpaulvds; aruba; corruption; croes; daterapedrug; deepak; dutch; ghb; holloway; joran; kidnapped; mafia; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; roofies; satish; sloot; tourism; travel; vandersloot
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To: Toespi; cajungirl

They were trying to find their girl while she might still be alive. It is like an Amber Alert.
The officials all say this...every hour is critical in a search for a missing person who might be in danger. Either you don't get it, or you don't care. There really is no other explanation for the line of attack on this poor family that you have taken.


3,781 posted on 06/28/2005 3:41:40 PM PDT by txrangerette
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To: onyx

Did you watch the interview where Geraldo interviewed the Aruban Prime Minister? He DEFINITELY STATED that Paul Van der S. had applied to be a Judge and he had FAILED to be accepted. Mr. Van der S. had been to this man's office just recently to ask for a job!! I saw and heard the interview with my own eyes and ears. You may have seen it. It was the man with the strip of beard that went from one ear right around the chin and up to the other ear. He looked liked a Dutch Reform fellow.


3,782 posted on 06/28/2005 3:42:37 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: auboy

Um, I agree with cajungirl, ok? The authorities that write the talking points after reading police reports used "vigilante". Only a liberal would refer to an upset parent as a vigilante. They really really wanted Beth to just go away. I guess they didn't realize how immune most of us are to liberal talking points. They'll never win any media war, here.


3,783 posted on 06/28/2005 3:43:47 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: txrangerette

PVDS SAYS the important thing is to find Natalee. Yet, he tells his son...you know, the last one seen w/her...NOT to say a word. Daddy is lying for sure.


3,784 posted on 06/28/2005 3:44:19 PM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: Canadian Outrage
the man with the strip of beard

He is the Minister of Justice.

3,785 posted on 06/28/2005 3:45:13 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: Toespi
and frankly, I am ususally right.

ROFLMAO!

All you've done on these threads is malign the Twittys; frankly, MY OPINION is that you have some major issues with good people from the South who have money.

3,787 posted on 06/28/2005 3:45:40 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Canadian Outrage

NO, dang it, I missed that interview, but I believe every word you have posted. I'm sure you heard correctly. I know I recall the earlier lie of VDS senior that you pointed out.

I just know the father will continue to lie for his son. He won't the kid's future away over an expendable American tourist girl.


3,788 posted on 06/28/2005 3:45:42 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: WestCoastGal

One thing we know for sure is that God KNOWS where Natalee is!! And He is well able to reveal her whereabouts.


3,789 posted on 06/28/2005 3:45:55 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: Carolinamom

Agree.


3,790 posted on 06/28/2005 3:46:00 PM PDT by txrangerette
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To: Toespi
and two policemen from Aruba who have probably been tipped pretty handsomely who decided to take matters into their own hands.

Ah, I see; you're not smearing the Twittys, just accusing them of BRIBING officials in Aruba.

3,791 posted on 06/28/2005 3:47:05 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: WestCoastGal

Very interesting. This has the potential to be another Schiavo-type case where even when the truth comes out, there will be people who refuse to beleive it. It appears the case is poorly handled, but the FACTS are so few and far between, it cannot be said with any degree of surety. Into the vacuum left by the lack of hard facts, we have suppositions, wild-assed guesses, and inneuendo.


3,792 posted on 06/28/2005 3:47:22 PM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: Toespi

Toespi,

May I ask how old your children are?


3,793 posted on 06/28/2005 3:48:00 PM PDT by Velveeta (www.takebackthememorial.org)
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To: Canadian Outrage

Amen.


3,794 posted on 06/28/2005 3:48:39 PM PDT by Velveeta (www.takebackthememorial.org)
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To: maggiefluffs

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/06/aruba_update_2.html aruba update 2


3,795 posted on 06/28/2005 3:50:39 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: Howlin; Toespi


The poster I have pinged, called it a "hostile adventure" when the Twitty's and the police went to the house to try to gain information about Natalee's disappearnance.

Imagine that: a HOSTILE ADVENTURE -- trying desperately to speak with the last known person to have been seen with Natalee is a HOSTILE ADVENTURE.




3,796 posted on 06/28/2005 3:51:01 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: Howlin

Howlin, answer this for me. Where in America does a mother, father, five friends from Alabama and two policemen have the right to interrogate a possible suspect, let alone one who is still seventeen? Show me the Dutch law that says this is legal. You don't know the facts and I don't know the facts of this case. We are going on information which has been advanced by hysteria and the same media you have always criticized. Greta and Geraldo are getting big play here. If this group showed up at my home using the tactics as reported by Jug, I would know that there is nothing my child could say that would be interpreted fairly and no, I would not tell the police that, my lawyer would.


3,797 posted on 06/28/2005 3:51:07 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: monkeywrench; cajungirl
I'm on your side. I agree with cajungirl, too.

Only a liberal would refer to an upset parent as a vigilante.

The "Alabama Posse" was in reference to an earlier post. You are correct: certain buzzwords blow their cover.

3,798 posted on 06/28/2005 3:51:16 PM PDT by auboy ("woof")
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To: txrangerette; Toespi; cajungirl; maggiefluffs; brigette

Take a breather - I detect some incoming at 12:00 o'clock high. There are a lot of folks who love conflict on otherwise rational discussion threads...they live for it!

This case is so frustrating - no facts have been made public, only snippets of conversations and locations where Natalee was seen, where she was supposedly taken and her rumored condition.

A few great FReepers (Maggiefluffs & Brigette)have done yeomans' work trying to gather facts, maps and timelines which have helped tremendously, but we are still left with a conundrum.

The Holloway-Twittys have even less.

sp


3,800 posted on 06/28/2005 3:52:25 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Newbie, PhD.)
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