Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative
Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...
Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts
Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts
Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts
Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts
Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts
Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts
Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts
Aruba Info...
Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif
Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif
San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif
Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)
Hotel Pictures -
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)
Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1
Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1
Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg
Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html
Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif
Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)
Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/
Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html
Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html
Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)
Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/
Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923
Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.
Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif
The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long
B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.
D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse - the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.
D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.
G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located
D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives
F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.
C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.
E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.
PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.
I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.
This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.
Examples
Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif
or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)
I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE
Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)
This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.
That's a different hypothetical that could take a long time to address -- and I have to leave for the day in a couple of minutes.
But if you're going to throw that idea out, I'll just say that I find the notion that Mr. vdS and his son could have so expeditiously and effectively disposed of a body in the time frame (such as we know it), seems awfully unlikely to me. Not impossible -- just unlikely.
But I have to go, so won't be able to respond to anything about that today.
No, he told him to not say a word You make it sound so sweet. It isn't. Not when things are so incriminating. urin was the last to see her. And daddy didn't want him to help.
Per Jug Twitty during an interview with Greta, Jug stated that he and five friends from Alabama and two policemen from Aruba along with Beth, went to the VDS home at 3:00 am, demanding to "speak" with their son, Joran. Jug stated that the police shined spotlights into the house, yelled for Joran to come out. PVDS was home and Joran supposedley was not. (This was the Alabama posse I referred to last week and was flamed for using that term.)
An innocent person would volunteer information to the distraught parents of a missing girl.
An innocent person would assist in the search for a girl he had spent time with and whose company he innocently enjoyed.
An innocent person would not concoct a tale about two black security guards.
The actions of the Van der Sloots, father and son, do indeed indicate a "consciousness of guilt" to any reasonable person.
DJ I think this is where the father comes in. The Kalpoe brothers were really dumb to back up the "family alibi"!! I don't care what anybody says, I watched that interview, and that father was NOT acting normal in any way whatsoever. He's just as complicit as the son. Bottom line, his purpose is to save his son's A$$ at all costs. I agree with Natalee's mother that the VDS mother is either completely clueless or a great actress.
But I've never heardd Beth or Jug
tell it that way. They said
they (as a group) went straight
to the VDS house @ 3 AM.
Never mentioned finding the VDS
at a casino first.
The Kalpoe brothers are total
idiots!! imo.....one should
never lie to cover-up for a
friend....especially in a
situation like this.
UNLESS....THEY are both
involved.
Thanks for the support!
To me it's disturbing that some conservatives (which most people who post on FR, are) are coming up with such irrational, hysterical, and downright vicious fulminations on this topic. That's something I usually associate with liberals.
Posters calling Joran "Urine" and the van der Sloots "van der SNOOTS" don't strike me as objective observers or analysts, either.
I think we're all of good will toward the Holloways and desperately hope for them that Natalee will be found. So I understand the passion on this topic, but I don't understand conservative FReepers going totally cookoo -- like liberals.
Anyway, I gotta go. Goodnight!
Excuse my tinfoil derby. It was a gift.
Beth said in one of the early interviews that when she first met Joran...rolled car window down and spoke to him, I believe...he was "the most arrogant young man" she ever come in contact with.
No, it was the other way 'round. They went to the home first, then the Casino. Now that I think of it, that was when they found Paul there but not Joran. They asked for Joran and Paul said that he was at a Casino. The group then trouped together to the Casino, and Paul must have gone along to be there when they found Joran and questioned him. That was when Paul was telling Joran, from the getgo, to keep quiet, not to tell them anything.
"arrogant and condesending,"
Beth said.
This? From a retread. LOL!
If she died on the beach, was kidnapped, or died at the home..it's still the same question..."how did her body disappear..did it evaporate?"
It looks like they may never find her body..maybe because there is nothing left of her to find. Stalemate...end of case.
If Joran walks..his life will never be the same. No one will forget.
sw
someone on TV (sorry I don't remember who) said that anyone who is a suspect or even a person of interest should not ever be involved in a search like this. Supposedly it is legally and ethically improper from both sides of the equation. For example: JVS finds something of Natalee's while searching. He could dispose of or otherwise hide the item if it would deflect attention away from him. On the other hand if JVS found something and divulged it, it could used later to make him appear guilty. Basically, JVS participating in the search in any way is a major conflict of interest and both the Holloways and JVS could potentially be harmed by it. I don't have a source, but it does make sense.
He was the last one to see her. There was no "person of interest" at the time. No one accused of anything.
I'm baaaaaaaaack...lol. My ex-dil, whom I adore, will save my a$$ again. She's coming over in the mornng to help me finish ALL of the final packing.
Now, I'll read the thread to see what I've missed.
I'm not so sure the muslims aren't involved somehow here too.
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