Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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[Quilla]

When my teens are out driving at night and a few minutes late, my symptoms of anxiety include uncontrollable shaking, pacing, and holding my head with my hands. One time my daughter was an hour late. I was looking out the window and saw her pull into the drive. So relieved she was home safe, all I could do was hug her. She could feel me shivering and understood right then the stress I had been experiencing. She's never been late since.

[No Surrender No Retreat]

This whole investigative ball dropping fiasco is an example of the Dutch judical/government/LE authorites trying to blow smoke up our noses.

Maybe we should send in Crockett and Tubbs? Be Cool, NSNR

[varina davis]

It is rather ironic that we can effect an entire regime change in Iraq and influence many other countries, but seemingly can't assert U.S. influence in the case of Natalee Holloway.

I'm not talking about taking over Aruba, just asserting and influencing the investigation.

Are you listening, Congress?

[GivemeaBREAK!]

If/when urine is released you can be asured he will NOT be going to college in the US.

If not the whole family, at the very least urine will be shipped off to Europe to study.

If he stays in Aruba I will not be surprised that someone, and it doesn't have to be a NH relative, will visit him and 'politely' ask him to explain what happened to Natalee.

I think there are alot of young men who will not like what he did to an American girl and would love to give him a chance to literally 'spill his cuts' about the incident.

[nfldgirl]

Sorry for changing the subject but I just saw on FOX News a line about John Walton "HEIR" of Sam Walton being killed...they had Walton "AIR" written on the screen. Unbelievable for a major news network. (DH just saw that they corrected it...can't believe it went up that way in the first place!)

[maggief]

Thanks for the update.

[Lucy Lake]

Another missing woman:

Cruise ship 'loses' woman
26/06/2005 09:15 - (SA)

Mexico City - Maritime authorities were on alert on Saturday for a woman reported missing from a cruise ship off the Caribbean coast of Mexico, a Carnival Cruise Lines representative said.

http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_1727416,00.html

[the Deejay]

How 'bout this....for starters?


The US should ban all
Arubans and Dutch from
coming here until NH
is found, dead or alive.

(My suggestion.)

[the Deejay]

There's been about 5 people
missing off cruise ships
in the past yr. or so.

I think we have a trend
going...

None have been found,
to my knowledge.

[Quilla]

Folks may have gotten an idea from Carl Hiaasen's lastest book, Skinny Dip. From amazon.com:

Charles "Chaz" Perrone fancies himself a take-charge kind of guy. So when this "biologist by default" suspects that his curvaceous wife, Joey, has stumbled onto a profitable pollution scam he's running on behalf of Florida agribusiness mogul Red Hammernut, he sets out right away to solve the problem--by heaving Joey off the deck of a luxury cruise liner and into the Atlantic Ocean, far from Key West.

[the Deejay]

My point exactly. LOL

[elli1]

...my symptoms of anxiety include uncontrollable shaking, pacing, and holding my head with my hands...

Yes...adrenaline overload.

[sissyjane]

>>Is it known how long the VDS family has lived on Aruba?<,

I believe the family has lived there since 1993.

[maggief]

SM:

Just heard them on Fox saying Chief of Police is Joran's godfather.

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Was it Geraldo who reported Jan Van Der Straten said, "I can't do this to my bestfriend's son?"

[NCjim]

Bookmark - cubicle bound

[af_vet_1981]

"No body = no crime" should be changed to "No body = no food for your island."

[maggief]

FNC -

New information about the five arrested:

K brothers may be "knee deep in this."

PvdS was questioned but nothing concrete to hold him further and no strong evidence to contradict his statement.

JvdS and PvdS seem savvy and not at all intimidated by the process.

[the Deejay]

Ah hell, they have plenty of food.
What they don't have, they can
get from Venezuela. No food
shortage there.....I can tell
ya that right now.

[Malichi]

Got to have money to buy food.

[MAWG]

I said 4 weeks ago about 5000 post ago that 2 weeks out we wouldnt know anymore than we did day one and then I said that 4 weeks out we'd still be in the same position. And here we are. I'll now take this argument to its logical end. This case will not be SOLVED but rather RESOLVED in another 4 weeks. There will be no body found, in spite of the efforts of Equisearch and there will be no charges filed. That has been the plan all along.