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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923


Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.


Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.


PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)



I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE


Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)


This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.




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To: TexKat

Does Aruban law enforcement even care about those phone records? Every day that goes by is more puzzline and more frustrating.


3,201 posted on 06/27/2005 6:53:06 PM PDT by hershey
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To: hershey

BEtween that and the time he ripped his glasses off and went after the neo-nazi (on camera of course)...

Must never forget Al Capone's Vault!


3,202 posted on 06/27/2005 6:54:43 PM PDT by johnb838 (Adios, liberal mofos!)
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To: demkicker

I'm glad someone else noticed
another bug-eyed woman! I
thought I was alone in
this one.

Yeah, she just rattles on
and on...zzzzzzzzzzzzz


3,203 posted on 06/27/2005 6:58:06 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: hershey

They were all sending text messages to each other....late into the night.....and nowhere near the HI. According to Sean and confirmed by Geraldo. So, Jerry has the records and Greta doesn't?? I'm confusing myself....


3,204 posted on 06/27/2005 6:58:51 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: brigette

Geraldo & Sean are saying that several text messages transpired between the Kalpoes & Joran the night of NH's disappearance. No one seems to know what is on those messages. Does anyone know if the authorities were able to capture those messages or not?


3,205 posted on 06/27/2005 6:59:04 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: johnb838

Right! Priceless! The tape on his nose after the neo-Nazi attack, well, maybe that's when he jumped the shark! Al Capone, that's when the scales fell from my eyes about G. (I admit I watched the rerun.) (Oh, boy, here comes Greta! The adults are in charge.)


3,206 posted on 06/27/2005 7:00:35 PM PDT by hershey
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To: brigette

In other words, another rumor perhaps?


3,207 posted on 06/27/2005 7:00:35 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: presently no screen name
lawdy!! I haven't spent so much time on one subject since 9/11 and then when we sent troops into Iraq.

In this case, I wish something, anything BIG would break!

3,208 posted on 06/27/2005 7:00:47 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: the Deejay

And Colmes is again in full make up and looking much healthier!


3,209 posted on 06/27/2005 7:01:52 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: demkicker
Oh gosh, now Sean has Harris Faulkner on - She's the bugg eyed gal that makes it almost impossible to hear what she's saying because of the distraction of her eyes!

LMAO!!

3,210 posted on 06/27/2005 7:02:30 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: johnb838

One of Geraldo's biggest non-moments. That and Al Capones vault.


3,211 posted on 06/27/2005 7:02:53 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: johnb838
Geraldo (Drawing in the dirt): "I'm with the 101st Airborne Division, XXX Brigade, XXrd Battalion. Here's Baghdad, Here's Nasariyah. We're Here."

LOL, I was remembering that, too.

3,212 posted on 06/27/2005 7:03:49 PM PDT by Otta B Sleepin
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To: Jrabbit

I keep hoping that the dead silence means something is going on behind the scenes, but I don't really believe it. Geraldo said the prime minister was in the US when N disappeared and when he saw how incompetent the investigation was, he called to tell LE to get on the three 'boys', and that now this has become a political issue on Aruba with the opposition party attacking the party in power over this mess. Well, the tourist industry is kaput. You can't help wondering if they'd act differently if a prominent Aruban family's daughter disappeared in similar circumstances.


3,213 posted on 06/27/2005 7:05:15 PM PDT by hershey
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To: hershey
Does Aruban law enforcement even care about those phone records? Every day that goes by is more puzzline and more frustrating.

Natalee's parents are helpless at this point. It just breaks my heart.

3,214 posted on 06/27/2005 7:07:16 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: the Deejay
Beth & Jug on Greta now. Beth says they're back to square one in the investigation. Saying they are very frustrated & have been patient but evidently the three guys haven't been 'broken'. They just want Natalee back. Jug says he doesn't even care about what happens to the boys, they just want Natalee.

Greta asked if Beth has spoken to the lead procecutor and she said, "No". Beth doesn't know where they stand since they aren't cooperating with them. She said that the next thing she will do.... follow up and speak with the lead procecutor.

Jug says he want the U.S. to talk to Holland to help them (makes me wonder if they've contacted their representatives). They want an investigaqtive team, facilitators, etc.... just some help. They say their in hell, but will not leave until they know what happened to Natalee.

3,215 posted on 06/27/2005 7:10:06 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: Jrabbit

Just watching Beth on Fox/Greta, and when Jug Twitty, beside her, complimented everyone on Aruba for being kind and understanding and trying to help find N, Beth looked as if she's biting her lip to keep from saying anything negative. Remember, even the hotel clerk at the HI that first night when Beth and the family arrived and had the dustup with the VDS's, said you could tell Joran was lying.


3,216 posted on 06/27/2005 7:11:06 PM PDT by hershey
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To: TexKat

God, this is painful to watch. They are truly at a loss about what to do next. And they haven't even spoken to the prosecuter?


3,217 posted on 06/27/2005 7:11:46 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: hershey
Does Aruban law enforcement even care about those phone records?

Sure they care about them. Let's see, they are right here in the cabinet under the tequila bottles.
3,218 posted on 06/27/2005 7:11:57 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: hershey
Evidently there was no forensics in PVDS's vehicle or the Aruban LE is not releasing that info, or covering it up.

That leaves Deepak's car which we know was tested for a blood spot/s which turned out to be negative.

So what means of transportion other than Deepak's no bloodstain car could have been used?

3,219 posted on 06/27/2005 7:13:04 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: the Deejay

I'm not following...are you thinking about items that would help identify the body?


3,220 posted on 06/27/2005 7:13:14 PM PDT by elli1
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