Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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[stlnative]

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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[maggief]

Thanks for looking. I thinks it's on my other computer.

[stlnative]

not that one - she wants the Google Satellite Map

[stlnative]

http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=12.564583,-70.035954&spn=0.089264,0.123081&z=4&t=k&hl=en

[maggief]

I'll check my pings for it. brb

[stlnative]

It at 2903 - I found it

[the Deejay]

I heard that Texas ES mmember say that....which led me to think they have found a clue..... A shoe? Dress? Purse?

[jeeperz]

Afternoon Update
June 27th, 2005 by Scared Monkeys -->
Riehl World has some updates.

Just had a communication from Aruba - search dogs have gotten a “hit” in quarry near the Van der Sloot house, dive team being rounded up.

For what it is worth I just read the above on Sacred Monkeys.....

[Yaelle]

There are evidence flags up around the area.

Wonder what these could be? Footprints or tire tracks? Or possibly blood or other physical evidence? (Could they just be invisible points which caused the dogs to signal?) This is a good sign, though, that she will soon be found. "Good" in the sense of getting her back to her family and hopefully punishing her murderer(s).

[GarySpFc]

This is not the Google map, but it is good:

http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/armap.shtml

[stlnative]

my guess is once you get to the google map...(zoom in as far as you can)
find on the left shore the big wetlands (remember those?) then move to the right in almost a straight line, you will see a small blue area (not large) that is probably the quarry nearest to Joran's house.

[hummingbird]

Soooooo, if the crimes are not reported, then Aruba has a zero crime rate.

That's quite a little scam they have going on there.

Another reason to be on this thread - to educate oneself about the real world, not just what they print in the travel brochures or what you might or might not hear from the travelers' grapevine.

Very sad.

[onyx]

I've read all my back log of newspapers and this thread, so I am once again current.

I think we can all assume that "if" JVDS was left to dispose of her alone, that he couldn't have done a thorough job.

[WestCoastGal]

From Riehl World/post

The quarry they are diving in now is in Moko, about 4 miles from Montaña. Its deep, dirty and has way to much water to pump out.
The VDS home has never been boarded up in spite of some reports on this blog.
The pres interferring is DUTCH, not ARUBAN! as far as radio reports go.

[truthluva]

ping

[GivemeaBREAK!]

There definitely needed to be something to spark that confidence.

When this case finally/hopefully comes to the end and we get the info that's been kept out from the public I bet most of us will be surprised by what they knew.

And if the case goes nowhere because of lack of evidence and co-operation causing urine to go free, I bet someone visits urine vdS and 'politely' asks him to tell the truth.

[TexKat]

Wonder what these could be? Footprints or tire tracks? Or possibly blood or other physical evidence? (Could they just be invisible points which caused the dogs to signal?) This is a good sign, though, that she will soon be found. "Good" in the sense of getting her back to her family and hopefully punishing her murderer(s).

I don't know, but please keep me informed. I am cubicle bound fo a couple of more hours.

[stlnative]

here is a screen capture - I marked a 1 and a 2 on it - one of these places are the quarry I would guess - since he does not live in land that far or very far down.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y84/patchworkpiecer/aruba1.jpg

[hummingbird]

What happened to the blog archives for every month except Jan. and Feb. 2005 (I think that's the only two left)? He has archive locations for 12/2004 - 06/2005.

Hmmmm....I don't know much about these blog "thingies"...is there a way to see if they were there and were deleted?

[Yaelle]

I've found out that very often they mark the site with these. It is a sign that the dogs have definitely found a human body, I suppose. The divers are in the murky quarry water now. Ugh. Prayers for the Holloway-Twitty family. What horrors they must be going through as they wait.

[maggief]

Thanks!