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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative

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To: TexKat

Also - I got the impression at some point hearing her mother speak that when she (the mother) got to Aruba they had talked to kids that were there and knew it was Joran.. tho' maybe I misunderstood.

I think too that the kids are giving conflicting stories... BUT let's face it - they were drinking. Their memory is probably a little foggy..


1,921 posted on 06/25/2005 6:19:22 PM PDT by pamlet
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To: TexKat

JMO, I take what these two say with a grain of salt.

I don't know much about the guy, but when Dash is asked if she's a close friend she comes up with her pat answer, "She's pretty much the reason I passed calculus. Yes."

Translation: Not a close friend.


1,922 posted on 06/25/2005 6:20:13 PM PDT by maggief
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To: NCjim

Sounds reasonable to me. The Croes guy could easily fess up and burn all of them. I'm thinking he'll be the first to spill his guts if they did dump Natalee's body in the water. Doesn't sound like the Dutch judicial system will make any types of plea bargains. I'd think that would be very helpful about now.


1,923 posted on 06/25/2005 6:22:51 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: All
Wow...Take a look at this - What one woman did to the man who raped her daughter:

Mother sets fire to her daughter's gloating rapist

The Sunday Telegraph (UK) ^ | June 26, 2005 | By Peter Upton in Alicante
Posted on 06/25/2005 8:15:44 PM EDT by aculeus

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1430687/posts

1,924 posted on 06/25/2005 6:24:32 PM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: Lizarde
PVDS let his son drive all the time even though he was underage...

Methinks the son raises the father in that family.....but mom wears the pants.......I do think if mom had been home, none of this would have happened..... truest thing joran told so far.

1,925 posted on 06/25/2005 6:24:59 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: Malichi
Even Jug Twitty said people were smoking dope on the front porch of C and C. I'm not trying to make Nat look bad but I wonder what's not being said.

I'm wondering if Natalee was warned not to go to C&C since Jug said that he had already knew about the happenings at C&C prior to Natalee leaving for the trip.

1,926 posted on 06/25/2005 6:25:12 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: demkicker
The Croes guy could easily fess up and burn all of them.

The latest report is that Steve Croes and Satish may be released soon.

1,927 posted on 06/25/2005 6:27:50 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: spectre
I keep thinking of her parents. To deal with this court system has to be frustrating, and they can't do a thing about it.

That Mom is gutsy, and I hurt for her. The frustration is going to be high when she starts hitting a wall. I am sure they (govt.)is not thrilled with the American's right now, and will work against them in the future.

Thank you God, for allowing us to be born in America.

1,928 posted on 06/25/2005 6:28:04 PM PDT by Neenah
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To: TexKat
Natalee was warned not to go to C&C since Jug said that he had already knew about the happenings at C&C prior to Natalee leaving for the trip.

I heard Jug say that, too.

And she didn't heed his advice?

From the looks of that place on the outside, I sure wouldn't enter it, neither will Greta.

I was surprised she was outside of C&C's, but it was daylight and no one was around.

1,930 posted on 06/25/2005 6:30:19 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: maggiefluffs
I still don't know why Kissell would go on television and lie.

Some of the students are probably trying to ctoa, hoping that their parents will not find out what they did.

1,931 posted on 06/25/2005 6:31:40 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: the Deejay
According to the charts, anything tossed in the ocean would have come back to shore quickly.

I heard tonight on FOX that the guy from the Party Boat had a Dingy. They were talking about him being source to get rid of body.

This was just talk back and forth, not accusation.

1,932 posted on 06/25/2005 6:33:00 PM PDT by Neenah
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To: Gracey

If sharks can kill a girl at Miramar in Destin, FL. (it happened today)--they can get a swimmer or diver off of Aruba.

Regardless of what Von Trappenberg said.

JMHO


1,933 posted on 06/25/2005 6:34:31 PM PDT by Palladin (God Bless America!)
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To: TexKat
The latest report is that Steve Croes and Satish may be released soon.

Yes, I've heard that too. Will be interesting to see if the 'street talk' is true or not. I suppose there are logical reasons Croes was arrested: He's got access to a boat (to dispose of a body) and I'm sure there are phone records of PvdS calling him, which could legitimately be explained as a job inquiry (as reported earlier after PvdS was turned down for a judgeship).

1,934 posted on 06/25/2005 6:35:14 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: Neenah
Hey Neenah, how're you doing? I have to wonder if Natalee and Joran were emailing prior to her trip. Seems like she got to know him awfully fast.

Also, I believe others in her family had been to Aruba previously and just maybe, got acquainted with some ilanders.

Aruba LE certainly seem to have something they're using as evidence and emails would certainly fit in. It's also something that Natalee's parents might know, but aren't able to reveal at this time.

Her mom and step-dad didn't seem to have much trouble zeroing in on the van der Sloots within 3 hours after they arrived in Aruba after Natalee's reported disappearance.

Just conjuring FWIW.

1,935 posted on 06/25/2005 6:37:07 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: demkicker
which could legitimately be explained as a job inquiry (as reported earlier after PvdS was turned down for a judgeship).

No

I don't think that would be a legitimate explanation. They should be able to trace how much cash PvdS withdrew. I wonder if Croes deposited any or whether they found it by searching his home or the boat.

1,936 posted on 06/25/2005 6:38:15 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: brigette

Did you get the impression that Mama Kalpoe kind of favors Satish? I did. Whenever she talked about him, her smile got broader. When she mentioned Deepak, it was hurriedly--he goes to school, he works, he's up all night on the computer.

Not that it means anything, but then again, maybe Satish has been telling her incriminating stuff about his brother.

I think the brothers will turn against each other. JMHO.


1,937 posted on 06/25/2005 6:39:02 PM PDT by Palladin (God Bless America!)
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To: brigette

The sloot's car...why does the steering wheel look like it's been chewed off?


1,938 posted on 06/25/2005 6:39:49 PM PDT by demsux
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To: cajungirl

Hah! Probably that EEEEVIL Frances Ellen!

(Just kidding, to those who take me seriously).


1,939 posted on 06/25/2005 6:41:08 PM PDT by Palladin (God Bless America!)
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To: TexKat
And she said yes and indicated that she was going back to the hotel with some other Mountain Brook students.

Did she go to Mountain Brook?

1,940 posted on 06/25/2005 6:41:53 PM PDT by demsux
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