Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative
Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...
Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts
Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts
Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts
Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts
Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts
Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts
Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts
Aruba Info...
Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif
Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif
San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif
Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)
Hotel Pictures -
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)
Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1
Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1
Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg
Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html
Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif
Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)
Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/
Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html
Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html
Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)
Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/
Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923
Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.
Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif
The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long
B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.
D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse - the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.
D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.
G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located
D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives
F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.
C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.
E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.
PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.
I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.
This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.
Examples
Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif
or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)
I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE
Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)
This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.
Also, thank you all for your concern about my son. I was told, by his doctor, after his 4th neurosurgery that "There is no medical reason he should be alive!- and that God must have a special plan for him." Imagine...but he is, and doing very well.
I was hesitant to post that, it happened over 15 years ago. He is in his 30's now, holds a Master's Degree and is working and has his own apt. Although I still have sadness for what he lost, and the plans he had that can never be realized, I am so very, very proud of what he has achieved. Yes, cases like this bring back some rough memories.
From what and how I have heard the suspicions of PVDS and the rest I am not putting too much weight into it. My understanding is that this is being used in order to hold them.
As to forcing her to go with them, I believe most all who saw her with the three boys leaving C and C's said she went willingly. I would think, if she were being forced or kidnapped, she would have struggled and the others would have come to her aid.
What happened after that is the question, but I think Natalee did what a lot of teens do: It was a summer fling, last night on vacation, she wanted to spend time with someone of interest, take it all in, etc. before going home. I also don't feel that Joran had anything to gain by forcing anything. He is a good looking, popular boy...if he wanted "sex" he could (or prob. has) have that relationship with someone there and not someone leaving the next day. It does not make sense that he forced himself on her.
I just feel these were teens acting like teens do. A little fun, petting, hormones acting up a bit. Maybe both should have behaved differently. Joran should have stayed home, as was the rule...Natalee should have just gone with her group back to the hotel. But their youth and exuberance led them a different direction, they let their guard down and focused only on the pleasure of the moment. How many of us have done that at one time or another in our lives? I bet some still do...LOL.
Ahhh CitizenM... I am sure you are SO proud of your son! Wonderful accomplishments...
Thank you for you post re the case as well. I too feel we shouldn't rush to judgement - something just seems SO strange .. but then it may be something as "simple" as something going wrong then a very stupid coverup..
Oh yes, we all do.
Or, he woke and she did not. Maybe she did pass out because even though she drank "responsably" as one friend said tonight on O'Reilly, it hit her hard later. So Joran went home, told his dad. Dad got angry that he had sneaked out but went back and Natalee was gone. Maybe they both figured she went to the hotel.
Later, when the news came about her disappearing, they made up the stupid story, because they felt Joran would be suspected of something more, since he was the last to have been seen with her. Stupid, yes...but understandable.
Or, of course like I said tonight...someone stole Natalee, and is framing the VdS family because of some grudge...maybe the father is truly at wit's end because of threats made.
It just seems so unreal that this family, with an obvious nice background, would be involved in some crime they planned. I offered more possibilities yesterday. I think there are so many that do not include Joran or his father commiting a crime against Natalee. But, it is possible the father knows something about the real criminal, and that is why he is being held and has been charged, and it has nothing to do with his son.
Whew. I am ready for bed. I hope I can sleep without nightmares about this. I am sure the mothers of all those teens are having a real problem sleeping without their children in the house and safe at their side. They must all be weeping constantly in the wee hours of the night.
Sorry that I am in the minority, but this is MHO and I find no fault with others' feelings. (And no, I did not think Michael Jackson was innocent or OJ...so I am not a bleeding heart!) I hope my comments are taken in the perspective I offer them, and not as a challenge. I pray ever so much, and so hard for all the families and children in this horrible situation.
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Yes, it's a beautiful place, and you can walk and drive all over. You can stand in the trees where Stonewall Jackson was shot, and you can walk up roundtop or stand at the top and look down, imagining the charge. You can go into the woods where Lee had his headquarters, and don't miss Devil's den.
There's that word again: premeditated.
I just love The Tide.
What threads "out there?" I haven't had my fill of unappeasables and malcontents yet today...but I'm getting pretty close!
Pick anything to do with Bush or Rove; you'll see it.
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