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Arizona: Stricter homeschooling regulations in the future?
EV Tribune ^ | By Jackie Leatherman

Posted on 06/22/2005 11:14:18 AM PDT by hsmomx3

District finds regulations for home-schoolers lacking

Federal and state accountability laws overlook homeschooled students. Once parents withdraw a child from a school district, they are also withdrawing a student from standardized testing and monitoring requirements. The absence of regulations has landed the issue on the agenda for this year’s annual meeting of the Arizona School Boards Association on Saturday in Mesa. Board members will debate and vote on recommendations that will form the group’s 2006 legislative agenda.

Included in the recommendations: A proposal for the Arizona Department of Education to monitor homeschooled students. The plan is being pitched by the governing board from the Oracle Elementary School District, located about 100 miles southeast of the East Valley in Pinal County.

Oracle board members maintain some students are not being educated at home, but are becoming victims of abuse or neglect.

"There is no way of knowing what is happening to those kids," said Betty Harmon, Oracle governing board member. "I think it is more a matter of protection for the kids. I have nothing against home-schooling . . . but every other child in the state, whether they are in a private school or a charter school or a (traditional) public school, they have people to monitor them. . . . There is nothing like that for home-school children."

Denise Standage, a Higley Unified School District governing board member — and home-school mother — will speak against the proposal. She said she expects to be the minority opinion stating that government shouldn’t regulate students who don’t receive public funding.

"Anybody can pick up the phone and call (Child Protective Services)," Standage said. "You really don’t need the school to do that. . . . If they are going to equate home-schooling with neglect and abuse, that’s discrimination." Contact Jackie Leatherman by email, or phone (480) 898-6334


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: homeschooling
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This is the governor's dream come true if they try and regulate us.
1 posted on 06/22/2005 11:14:21 AM PDT by hsmomx3
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They're coming for THE CHILDREN!!!!!!!!!.................


2 posted on 06/22/2005 11:16:07 AM PDT by Red Badger (The Army makes the world safe for democracy. The Marines make the world safe for the Army.....)
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District finds regulations for home-schoolers lacking

The horrors.

4 posted on 06/22/2005 11:18:19 AM PDT by Maceman (The Qur'an is Qur'ap.)
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"...but every other child in the state, whether they are in a private school or a charter school or a (traditional) public school, they have people to monitor them. . . . There is nothing like that for home-school children."

Is this woman on crack?! Their PARENTS are monitoring them!!! SH*T!


5 posted on 06/22/2005 11:19:17 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Red Badger
They're coming for THE CHILDREN!!!!!!!!!.................

"What do you mean 'you'll be taking the boy'?"


6 posted on 06/22/2005 11:21:54 AM PDT by Bluegrass Conservative
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Once parents withdraw a child from a school district, they are also withdrawing a student from standardized testing and monitoring requirements.

But since they aren't applying for "Federal" (federally confiscated) funds that are tied to the compulsory testing, that withdrawl is entirely appropriate.

7 posted on 06/22/2005 11:23:09 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
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Sure, homeshooling is a THREAT to the very existance of the failed public school system. Expect more and more attempts to harrass those who opt out of socialist systems when they can.


8 posted on 06/22/2005 11:23:49 AM PDT by Kokojmudd (Today's Liberal is Tomorrow's Prospective Flying Saucer Abductee)
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Is this woman on crack?! Their PARENTS are monitoring them!!! SH*T!

True . . . in most cases. I grew up in an area of the county though where some parents found out about homeschooling and the fact that it had few regulations. They "enrolled" their kids in "homeschools" and did nothing with them but use them as cheap labor. Mainly, it was to make sure their kids didn't rat on their drug habits and dealings at school.

9 posted on 06/22/2005 11:25:12 AM PDT by Bluegrass Conservative
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You seem to be under the old-fashioned mistaken belief that the government is our hired help to do a few specific tasks we delegate to it. They are the rulers - you are the ruled. And be sure to avert your eyes when your masters are around. They don't like their servants getting uppity and standing up and looking them in the eyes. < /I wish it was sarcasm >


10 posted on 06/22/2005 11:25:54 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Republicans and Democrats no longer exist. There are only Fabian and revolutionary socialists.)
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Join HSLDA the Home School Legal Defense Association.

(Do it today. Not available in any stores.)

11 posted on 06/22/2005 11:26:25 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (the real enemy seeks to devour what is good)
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

So, guilty until proven innocent then?


12 posted on 06/22/2005 11:26:43 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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So, guilty until proven innocent then?

I don't see anything wrong with reasonable standards. I would think the legit homeschoolers would want to make sure that bad elements were eliminated.

13 posted on 06/22/2005 11:28:40 AM PDT by Bluegrass Conservative
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""There is no way of knowing what is happening to those kids," said Betty Harmon, Oracle governing board member. "I think it is more a matter of protection for the kids. I have nothing against home-schooling . ."


What a PINKO! I'd be willing to bet the Pinal County school systems are scoring signifcantly below home schoolers on standardized tests and graduation rate. This commie busybody needs to pay attention to their own crumbling heap of a school system and butt out of anybody's elses business!


14 posted on 06/22/2005 11:29:08 AM PDT by Kokojmudd (Today's Liberal is Tomorrow's Prospective Flying Saucer Abductee)
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Guilty it is then. Might want to send the vice squad in check if I've got a brothel running here at the office, too, ya just never know...


15 posted on 06/22/2005 11:31:27 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: hsmomx3

Contact Tom Horne to speak out against this Bolshevic dreck.

Arizona Department of Education
1535 West Jefferson Street
Phoenix, Arizona 85007
602-542-5393
1-800-352-4558


16 posted on 06/22/2005 11:33:12 AM PDT by Kokojmudd (Today's Liberal is Tomorrow's Prospective Flying Saucer Abductee)
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Guilty it is then. Might want to send the vice squad in check if I've got a brothel running here at the office, too, ya just never know...

So are you against all regulations? What's wrong with setting up standards, so people know what to expect when they are setting up their homeschool curriculum?

17 posted on 06/22/2005 11:34:06 AM PDT by Bluegrass Conservative
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I posted a flippant reply in anger, let me try again:

Reasonable standards. This is the sticking point between the HS world and the PS world, though it is rather that the stards set by the PS world are too low by far.

IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO REGULATE BAD BEHAVIOR VIA LEGISLATION. This includes education. Monitoring legislation will NOT help, and besides it is not the government's job.


18 posted on 06/22/2005 11:36:54 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: kinsman redeemer

Already belong.

I wonder if they have seen this article?


19 posted on 06/22/2005 11:39:39 AM PDT by hsmomx3 (Steelers in '06)
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To: Kokojmudd

Unfortunately, he feels homeschoolers need to have more regulations. I wish I had saved the info. but he made a statement a few years ago about it. He said that they don't know if homeschoolers are really being taught.


20 posted on 06/22/2005 11:41:07 AM PDT by hsmomx3 (Steelers in '06)
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