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Extinction of frogs is catastrophic, scientists say
Reuters ^ | 6/22/05 | Carlos Andrade

Posted on 06/22/2005 8:52:45 AM PDT by GPBurdell

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To: jordan8

don't know what you're doing with them --- i've got a bumper crop. seems we have more of 'em every single year.


61 posted on 06/22/2005 4:02:34 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: editor-surveyor
What we don't know is whether they are even ligitimate species...

You're right about that, but we've got to allow some truth-claims to remain standing as a basis for the discussion until we get data that says otherwise. So, I opt to allow the species numbers as a "given", for the time being.

62 posted on 06/22/2005 4:06:00 PM PDT by HKMk23 (PROP 65. WARNING: This post may contain ideas known to the State of California to be conservative.)
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To: GPBurdell

More junk science.


63 posted on 06/22/2005 4:09:24 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Democrats haven't had a new idea since Karl Marx.)
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To: GPBurdell

Frogs managed to survive the asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs. I think they could handle a one-degree change in the world's climate.

But frogs are all over the world. Perhaps they each evolved to deal with the various parasites and funguses that existed in their part of the world, but are ill-equipped to deal with those from another part of the world. Perhaps humans are unwittingly spreading parasites around the world somehow.


64 posted on 06/22/2005 4:10:56 PM PDT by Our man in washington
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To: GPBurdell

Ah, yes, more doom and gloom on the environmental front. The frogs are disappearing. So whaddaya want me to do about it? Seriously, folks, these environmental people remind me of people in the path of a tornado running around in circles screaming "We're all gonna die!!! We're all gonna die!!!" instead of looking for a storm cellar. It's easy to forget how the environmental movement actually accomplished things in the 60's and 70's(the restoration of large species such as wolves and improvements in water quality spring to mind) by offering a message of hope. Today's environmentalists are so relentlessly grim and negative they are the worst enemies of their own worthwhile cause. Maybe they just want everyone to be miserable. I really don't know. But if they were with me on board the USS Earth, and the old ship started taking on water, the first thing I'd do is throw their hysterical, smelly, birkenstocked asses to the sharks and go help the captain and engineers seal the hull. THE FROGS ARE DYING!!! DON'T YOU FEEL TERRIBLE ABOUT IT???? Sorry, Mr. Ponytail. If I paint myself green and run naked down Main Street will Kermit's vital signs improve? These people are so illogical.


65 posted on 06/22/2005 4:14:10 PM PDT by infidel dog (nearer my God to thee....)
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To: GPBurdell
"NO EXTINCTION POUR MOI, S'IL VOUS PLAIT."


66 posted on 06/22/2005 4:15:49 PM PDT by quark
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To: GPBurdell

There are plenty of frogs on the golf course I play. They are always getting stuck on my spikes.


67 posted on 06/22/2005 4:20:35 PM PDT by 12chachacha
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To: GPBurdell
I always wondered where all the frogs have gone. When I was a kid growing up, we used to kill frogs down at the pond by the dozens at Boy Scout camp. We'd see their eyes sticking out of the water and we'd smash them with a rock and if we were accurate, they'd go belly up in the water. Then we'd collect them and barbeque their legs on a stick by the campfire.

Bet they don't do that in Boy Scouts anymore!

Anyway, speaking of extinction, whatever happened to all the fireflies in New England? There used to be thousands of them every night in all the back yards. Now nothing. They still have them in Alabama - where I will be in a couple of weeks. But not in New England.

68 posted on 06/22/2005 4:22:57 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (Do Cats and Dogs know that they are going to die someday?)
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To: quark

Oh..., THAT kind of frog. I was worried for a minute.


69 posted on 06/22/2005 4:24:43 PM PDT by groanup (our children sleep soundly, thank-you armed forces)
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To: SamAdams76
...whatever happened to all the fireflies in New England? There used to be thousands of them every night in all the back yards. Now nothing. They still have them in Alabama - where I will be in a couple of weeks. But not in New England.

Don't worry. They disappeared for years in Georgia and now they're back.

70 posted on 06/22/2005 6:25:25 PM PDT by groanup (our children sleep soundly, thank-you armed forces)
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To: oldsalt
Here in North Florida after one of the hurricanes last year,my carport looked like a moving,undulating blanket of baby frogs. They were numbered in the millions...honestly.

That's one of the quirks of studying the herps. They go through boom and bust population dynamics like no other. Primarily dependant upon climate (rain not warming/cooling). Toads are notorious for this. Populations really need to be examined at larger scales (5-10 years not nearly enough to establish pop. trends). That said extinctions and declines are 2 different things. The extinctions are definetly alarming!

71 posted on 06/22/2005 8:41:38 PM PDT by GreenFreeper (FreepMail me to be added to the Eco-Ping List)
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To: editor-surveyor
Knock off the jokes. Extinction of Frogs is not funny to frogs.:)


72 posted on 06/22/2005 11:49:48 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 5 decades.)
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To: Grampa Dave

Priceless!!!


73 posted on 06/23/2005 7:24:24 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The Lord has given us President Bush; let's now turn this nation back to him)
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To: GPBurdell
Should we stop saying "save the whales" and say "save the frogs?"

Nope. As far as I'm concerned, the french are on their own.

74 posted on 06/23/2005 7:26:10 AM PDT by null and void (2¢ plain)
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To: GPBurdell
Blush *nevermind*
75 posted on 06/23/2005 7:27:18 AM PDT by null and void (2¢ plain)
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To: SamAdams76

We stuck fire crackers up their @$$, lit the fuse and ... in mid hop ....


76 posted on 06/24/2005 4:39:00 PM PDT by knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
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