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AMA acts on Terry Schiavo - inspired policy
Chicago Sun Times ^ | June 21, 2005 | LINDSEY TANNER

Posted on 06/22/2005 1:25:39 AM PDT by FairOpinion

The politicization of Terri Schiavo prompted the American Medical Association on Tuesday to adopt policy opposing any legislation that presumes patients would want life-sustaining treatment unless it is clear that they would not.

Tuesday's action at the annual meeting of the nation's largest doctors group also reaffirms existing AMA policy that says it is ethical in some cases to discontinue life-sustaining treatment if it is in the patient's best interests.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: dimwits; emoteathon; emotionsrunamok; euthanasia; euthanesia; fairopiniondisruptor; health; hysterria; ikantthinkstrait; medical; schiavo; schindler; terri
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To: Smartaleck

"....and 55 percent said their religious beliefs influence how they practice medicine."

So I guess the trick is to avoid the 45 percent.


81 posted on 06/22/2005 9:20:19 PM PDT by Sun (Call the U.S. SELL-OUT senators toll-free, 1-877-762-8762 & give 'em "heck.")
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To: Goodgirlinred; Earthdweller

Please see my post #64.


82 posted on 06/22/2005 9:23:23 PM PDT by Sun (Call the U.S. SELL-OUT senators toll-free, 1-877-762-8762 & give 'em "heck.")
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To: FairOpinion
So let add this up

The AMA opposing any legislation that presumes patients would want life-sustaining treatment

The AMA policy says it is ethical in some cases to discontinue life-sustaining treatment if it is in the patient's best interests.

And per the standard in the Terri Schiavo case "life-sustaining treatment" is food and water

So it is ethical to discontinue life-sustaining treatment, no presuming patients would want life-sustaining treatment, and food and water provided to you are life-sustaining treatment

So if a Government court or Doctor decides your incompetent, your live is at there discretion to take based on what they decide is in your best interest...

What I don't get is some "Libertarian" thinking that its right to giving this much power to the Government or Doctors

83 posted on 06/22/2005 9:55:54 PM PDT by tophat9000 (When the State ASSUMES death...It makes an ASH out of you and me..)
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To: Earthdweller

Do you have any information on the lobby efforts of the scientologists in Florida? Wonder how much power is exerted over the lawmakers?


84 posted on 06/22/2005 10:04:38 PM PDT by ClancyJ (Life is a God-given inalienable right to all Americans - not just the chosen ones.)
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To: Goodgirlinred

Good post...Bump!


85 posted on 06/22/2005 10:24:49 PM PDT by Gondring (The can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold dead hands.)
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To: MEGoody
I thought the hypocratic oath stated that they were to do no harm.

Not all doctors have taken the Hippocratic (sic) Oath, and Primum non nocere is actually not in it, anyway. However, there's a prohibition against lethal doses.

86 posted on 06/22/2005 10:38:29 PM PDT by Gondring (The can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold dead hands.)
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To: tophat9000
What I don't get is some "Libertarian" thinking that its right to giving this much power to the Government or Doctors

You have the right to draw your .45 and tell them to stop. ;-)

87 posted on 06/22/2005 10:42:00 PM PDT by Gondring (The can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold dead hands.)
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To: Gondring
You have the right to draw your .45 and tell them to stop. ;-)

Let me rephrases that... What I don't get is why, giving this much power to the Government or Doctors by default over mine or any other person life fits in to some "Libertarian" philosophy of government

Its one thing to say the gov has no right to, against my will, to prevent me from dying

Its another thing for the government, doctors or government appointed guardian to assume its there right to decide without my explicit permission to take my life (removing food and water is taking a life) unless I'm in a position to say no

88 posted on 06/22/2005 11:14:04 PM PDT by tophat9000 (When the State ASSUMES death...It makes an ASH out of you and me..)
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To: tophat9000
What I don't get is some "Libertarian" thinking that its right to giving this much power to the Government or Doctors

Interesting point. You are right - they are usually yelling about government overstepping its bounds - but they seem to like this statement. Hm...........veeeeerrry interesting..........

89 posted on 06/22/2005 11:14:50 PM PDT by ClancyJ (Life is a God-given inalienable right to all Americans - not just the chosen ones.)
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To: Sun

How very sad.

My opinion - We will just have to stay out of hospitals as they will be the slaughter houses. Every pill, every shot, every time the nurse runs tests, you will worry that they are analyzing whether you get to live or not.


90 posted on 06/22/2005 11:18:28 PM PDT by ClancyJ (Life is a God-given inalienable right to all Americans - not just the chosen ones.)
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To: Nevermore

Right - "best interests". What? Are they afraid they might kill the patient if they do not stop treatment?

Looks like a little bit of lawsuit prevention is going on with this statement.


91 posted on 06/22/2005 11:20:37 PM PDT by ClancyJ (Life is a God-given inalienable right to all Americans - not just the chosen ones.)
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To: Gondring

Well I was going to say, they certanly work more then three days a week.

More like 12 hour shifts a week, and then a week off.

It ain't no 24 hours a week.


92 posted on 06/22/2005 11:28:08 PM PDT by planekT (Suncoast is toast.)
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To: ClancyJ

"My opinion - We will just have to stay out of hospitals as they will be the slaughter houses. Every pill, every shot, every time the nurse runs tests, you will worry that they are analyzing whether you get to live or not."

Let's hear it for HOME CARE.


93 posted on 06/22/2005 11:34:12 PM PDT by Sun (Call the U.S. SELL-OUT senators toll-free, 1-877-762-8762 & give 'em "heck.")
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To: Sun

That's a good idea - but guess it can't be the Nurses Home Care - because they may also judge us in the privacy of our homes. We will just have to come up with a neighborhood HOME MEDICAL CARE RESPECTING SANCTITY OF LIFE or HMCRSL.

We will have videos running during our visit to prove that we did nothing to kill but helped. We might need a doctor to give us medical advice that we can enact (but at least he won't have access to the patient).

There will be peace and security for all - no more sleepless nights watching for when those nurses try and pull something on you while you sleep.


94 posted on 06/22/2005 11:43:19 PM PDT by ClancyJ (Life is a God-given inalienable right to all Americans - not just the chosen ones.)
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To: ClancyJ

Maybe pro-lifers need to form some kind of coalition to watch each other's backs.


95 posted on 06/23/2005 12:28:36 AM PDT by Sun (Call the U.S. SELL-OUT senators toll-free, 1-877-762-8762 & give 'em "heck.")
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To: blueriver

.. it is ethical in some cases to discontinue life-sustaining treatment if it is in the care taker's best interests.


You are right about that!


96 posted on 06/23/2005 4:31:48 AM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: Goodgirlinred

It was illegal to deny a patient food and water in Florida too.


97 posted on 06/23/2005 4:46:19 AM PDT by trustandobey (Delay 2008!)
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To: Spiff

Impressive.


98 posted on 06/23/2005 5:54:10 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Sun

"So I guess the trick is to avoid the 45 percent."

Being religious isn't always a presumption of goodness. Many terrorist afterall believe in a "God".


99 posted on 06/23/2005 6:51:20 AM PDT by Smartaleck
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To: tophat9000

"What I don't get is some "Libertarian" thinking that its right to giving this much power to the Government or Doctors"

you left out and the guardians.


100 posted on 06/23/2005 6:54:08 AM PDT by Smartaleck
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