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AMA acts on Terry Schiavo - inspired policy
Chicago Sun Times ^ | June 21, 2005 | LINDSEY TANNER

Posted on 06/22/2005 1:25:39 AM PDT by FairOpinion

The politicization of Terri Schiavo prompted the American Medical Association on Tuesday to adopt policy opposing any legislation that presumes patients would want life-sustaining treatment unless it is clear that they would not.

Tuesday's action at the annual meeting of the nation's largest doctors group also reaffirms existing AMA policy that says it is ethical in some cases to discontinue life-sustaining treatment if it is in the patient's best interests.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: dimwits; emoteathon; emotionsrunamok; euthanasia; euthanesia; fairopiniondisruptor; health; hysterria; ikantthinkstrait; medical; schiavo; schindler; terri
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
They are only there to make a buck, play golf, disemburden themselves from your medical situation, play golf, and make a buck.

And get pay increases by saving the system money and getting their cut. Already ongoing in the Kaiser system. Getting paid MORE for not doing their job.

41 posted on 06/22/2005 10:43:00 AM PDT by tertiary01
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To: tertiary01

Have you TRIED to make an appointment with a doctor? They work 3 days a week, 4 hours a day, for a total of 12 hours a week. I'm not even kidding. And these are young doctors, not ones near retirement age.


42 posted on 06/22/2005 10:49:49 AM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: EdHallick

Statement From Bobby Schindler on Inscription on Terri Schiavo's Grave Marker

http://www.earnedmedia.org/tf0621.htm

CLEARWATER, Fl., June 21 /Christian Wire Service/ -- At the burial site of Terri Schiavo's cremated remains, Michael Schiavo used a bronze grave marker to list Feb. 25, 1990, as the date his wife died. Feb. 25, 1990, is the date Terri Schindler Schiavo experienced a still unknown event that left her severely mentally disabled. Terri Schiavo actually died March 31, 2005, nearly two weeks after her feeding tube was removed by court order.

The following is a statement from Terri's brother, Bobby Schindler, on the inscription on Terri's burial site marker:

"This clearly illustrates the spiteful lengths to which Michael Schiavo will go in order to purposely hurt those that loved Terri unconditionally – her family. It seems to me that the only intention of this inscription was to be hurtful, and had absolutely nothing to do with Terri, but only to cause my parents additional pain over the loss of their child. Maybe even more tragic, is that in doing so, Michael Schiavo shows nothing but a lack of respect for Terri."


43 posted on 06/22/2005 10:56:04 AM PDT by QQQQQ
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp

I guess the temptation to save the system money by not working is just too strong for them to resist. Unfortunately I'm in the Kaiser system, where any appt (except OBGYN) that's not an emergency is 3-6 weeks away and surgeries are 6-9 month waits.


44 posted on 06/22/2005 11:59:41 AM PDT by tertiary01
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To: EternalVigilance
"The American Medical Association on Tuesday adopted a policy opposing any legislation that presumes patients would want life-sustaining treatment unless they have clearly stated otherwise. "

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"Tuesday's action also reaffirmed existing AMA policy that says it is ethical in some cases to discontinue life-sustaining treatment if it is in the patient's best interests. "

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So now, how is it that the medical community is going to make these decisions .. and how will they defend or enforce their decisions?? And also, is this now saying that, if you DON'T have an executed medical directive, your life becomes theirs with which to dispense and it's their decision what is in your best interests??

I think in their rush to take a position and marginalize the critical ethical issues raised in Terri's plight, they are opening a huge can of worms and litigation.

45 posted on 06/22/2005 12:14:56 PM PDT by STARWISE ( You get the govt. you deserve. CALL YOUR CONGRESS CRITTERS OFTEN -U.S. CONGRESS: 1-877-762-8762)
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To: Gondring

The situation you're describing would be appropriate for people who are terminally ill .. Terri was not.


46 posted on 06/22/2005 12:17:14 PM PDT by STARWISE ( You get the govt. you deserve. CALL YOUR CONGRESS CRITTERS OFTEN -U.S. CONGRESS: 1-877-762-8762)
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To: STARWISE

"So now, how is it that the medical community is going to make these decisions"

How? They, the memembers will probably vote on it. That's the way it usually works.

You might want to re-read what is stated. You seem to be a bit confused?


47 posted on 06/22/2005 12:39:19 PM PDT by Smartaleck
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To: STARWISE

Wesley Smith, a leading pro-life attorney who specializes in bioethics issues, says people should make their wishes known beforehand.

"I think people need to create advanced directives in which they say, 'I don't want to be dehydrated to death and have my food taken away if I become cognitively disabled,'" Smith explained.

http://www.lifenews.com/bio1048.html


Apparently now the presumption is going towards death: if you don't have something in writing specifically spelling out that you want to live and what you want them to do, they will presume you want to die. And you don't even know who the "they" could be.


48 posted on 06/22/2005 12:51:02 PM PDT by QQQQQ
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To: Mrs Zip

ping


49 posted on 06/22/2005 12:55:11 PM PDT by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 48% of Americans (NRA))))
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To: tutstar
Tuesday's action at the annual meeting of the nation's largest doctors group also reaffirms existing AMA policy that says it is ethical in some cases to discontinue life-sustaining treatment if it is in the patient's best interests.

Why can't they at least be honest about it. A person does not have a best interest when they are dead. A more honest reading would be,

.. it is ethical in some cases to discontinue life-sustaining treatment if it is in the care taker's best interests.

50 posted on 06/22/2005 1:33:10 PM PDT by blueriver
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To: QQQQQ
Apparently now the presumption is going towards death: if you don't have something in writing specifically spelling out that you want to live and what you want them to do, they will presume you want to die. And you don't even know who the "they" could be.

I am not sure that even if you have something it writing it will make a difference, This is what it says about that:

Physicians should provide all relevant medical information and explain to surrogate decision makers that decisions regarding withholding or withdrawing life-sustaining treatment should be based on substituted judgment (what the patient would have decided) when there is evidence of the patient’s preferences and values. In making a substituted judgment, decision makers may consider the patient’s advance directive (if any); the patient’s values about life and the way it should be lived; and the patient’s attitudes towards sickness, suffering, medical procedures, and death. If there is not adequate evidence of the incompetent patient’s preferences and values, the decision should be based on the best interests of the patient (what outcome would most likely promote the patient’s well-being).

51 posted on 06/22/2005 1:43:52 PM PDT by blueriver
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To: EdHallick
Michael is not saying "I kept my promise" - he never made one other than his marriage vows and he sure didn't keep these by getting a mistress. (And no, I would not have blamed him for getting a divorce.)

To me, it reads that Terri is saying, "I kept my promise" since Michael is not buried there. This is just one more mind game by that twisted Michael.

52 posted on 06/22/2005 2:10:31 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Earthdweller

Well, I think maybe they have to give you life sustaining treatment if you are in the country illegally. Otherwise, I think you might be SOL.
susie


53 posted on 06/22/2005 2:27:47 PM PDT by brytlea (Yes, there are Republican teachers...)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp

Funny...I wish my doctor friend didn't work such long hours. We are hardly ever able to get together on weekends, since she's often on call and having to do consults at the hospital.


54 posted on 06/22/2005 4:00:37 PM PDT by Gondring (The can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold dead hands.)
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To: EdHallick
I still can`t get over this headstone..What a selfish putz. It looks like Terri herself is saying "I kept my promise"

Try this one then.


55 posted on 06/22/2005 4:02:24 PM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: QQQQQ

I've already made that clear to my son, who will be my medical proxy .. THE PRIORITY IS ON SAVING MY LIFE AND DO NOT DEHYDRATE ME TO DEATH.


56 posted on 06/22/2005 4:26:05 PM PDT by STARWISE ( You get the govt. you deserve. CALL YOUR CONGRESS CRITTERS OFTEN -U.S. CONGRESS: 1-877-762-8762)
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To: Smartaleck

I'm not in the least confused .. I presumed the folks posting here would understand that I'm questioning what methodology will be put in place in hospitals to actually permit them to truly play God and make these life and death decisions separate from the wishes and rights of family members. Sorry if you weren't in that group of folks.


57 posted on 06/22/2005 4:32:52 PM PDT by STARWISE ( You get the govt. you deserve. CALL YOUR CONGRESS CRITTERS OFTEN -U.S. CONGRESS: 1-877-762-8762)
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To: EdHallick

The 'I Kept My Promise' bit is interesting ... it could mean he kept his promise to kill her if she crossed again way back in 1990! He did have 'Departed This Earth, 1990' put on the stone, so he wants to point back to that event that put her in the Hospital. I wonder if Jodi realizes how fragile is her status now that his focus on Terri and the Schindlers is gone?


58 posted on 06/22/2005 4:52:11 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: All; tutstar

"Tuesday's action at the annual meeting of the nation's largest doctors group also reaffirms existing AMA policy that says it is ethical in some cases to discontinue life-sustaining treatment if it is in the patient's best interests."

No surprise. The AMA is also pro-abortion.


59 posted on 06/22/2005 6:01:57 PM PDT by Sun (Call the U.S. SELL-OUT senators toll-free, 1-877-762-8762 & give 'em "heck.")
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To: Sun

So, now in the US of A every MD is a "License to Kill".


60 posted on 06/22/2005 6:03:15 PM PDT by bvw
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