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AMA acts on Terry Schiavo - inspired policy
Chicago Sun Times ^ | June 21, 2005 | LINDSEY TANNER

Posted on 06/22/2005 1:25:39 AM PDT by FairOpinion

The politicization of Terri Schiavo prompted the American Medical Association on Tuesday to adopt policy opposing any legislation that presumes patients would want life-sustaining treatment unless it is clear that they would not.

Tuesday's action at the annual meeting of the nation's largest doctors group also reaffirms existing AMA policy that says it is ethical in some cases to discontinue life-sustaining treatment if it is in the patient's best interests.

(Excerpt) Read more at suntimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: dimwits; emoteathon; emotionsrunamok; euthanasia; euthanesia; fairopiniondisruptor; health; hysterria; ikantthinkstrait; medical; schiavo; schindler; terri
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To: ClancyJ

"My opinion - We will just have to stay out of hospitals as they will be the slaughter houses. Every pill, every shot, every time the nurse runs tests, you will worry that they are analyzing whether you get to live or not."

Next time you're ill you'll call...a plumber?


101 posted on 06/23/2005 6:55:14 AM PDT by Smartaleck
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To: Goodgirlinred
Organs are not sold for transplant. That is against the law.

The organs are free. The procedure is where the profit margin lies. Need the organs to conduct the procedure.

It's illegal to sell the organ, but that just puts the market for organ swapping procedures into a backroom made of medical ethicists.

102 posted on 06/23/2005 6:57:27 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Goodgirlinred
... most doctors are very good, hardworking men who took an oath to "First Do No Harm."

Most, but not all. Personally, I don't trust them. I also don't trust advance directives. I do agree with your advice to have a trusted surrogate.

103 posted on 06/23/2005 7:00:25 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Smartaleck

Good point. I didn't think of that.

However, even doctors who believe in terrorism, probably don't kill their patients.


104 posted on 06/23/2005 7:11:36 AM PDT by Sun (Call the U.S. SELL-OUT senators toll-free, 1-877-762-8762 & give 'em "heck.")
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To: tophat9000; mizmoutarde; 8mmMauser; TAdams8591; Two-Bits; ZOTnot; Future Useless Eater; Halls; ...
Its another thing for the government, doctors or government appointed guardian to assume its there right to decide without my explicit permission to take my life (removing food and water is taking a life) unless I'm in a position to say no

To take this a step further ....... who gave the AMA or any medical association the right to make decrees stating that they will give no medical care for some at a point that they decide?

It just dawned on me this morning - the gall of them. Just who elected the AMA the elite that get to chose which of us gets life and which are escorted out the door by withdrawal of care. Also, who gave them the right to deny Americans the right to life?

Now before you disagree - think a minute and put yourself in position of a person wanting to live to take care of your family, your children or any other reason. You go to a hospital and your wishes mean nothing because the "AMA" (the elite of our world) has decided that they are allowed to determine when to take away medical care that will save you.

Not also think a minute - do you think any doctor's family will be denied that same care they deny you? No, they would not - the doctors themselves would do all the deciding but the AMA will not give you that right - they decide for you because they control the medical care.

Well, I demand the same consideration given to other doctors because the doctors of this world are not a superclass of people entitled to better care than the rest of us.

105 posted on 06/23/2005 8:28:47 AM PDT by ClancyJ (Life is a God-given inalienable right to all Americans - not just the chosen ones.)
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To: EternalVigilance; Howlin

Isn't this what you wanted? You people will never be satisfied because you have a psychotic condition where you think people are out to kill you. This little ditty is exactly what you said you wanted all along: If there is no written consent, assume life. Now you're pissed off at this? Why am I not surprised.


108 posted on 06/23/2005 8:44:58 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: Smartaleck

No, I'm going to promote the neighborhood Home Medical Care Respecting Sanctity of Life Group.

"We will just have to come up with a neighborhood HOME MEDICAL CARE RESPECTING SANCTITY OF LIFE or HMCRSL.

We will have videos running during our visit to prove that we did nothing to kill but helped. We might need a doctor to give us medical advice that we can enact (but at least he won't have access to the patient).

There will be peace and security for all - no more sleepless nights watching for when those nurses try and pull something on you while you sleep."



109 posted on 06/23/2005 8:49:52 AM PDT by ClancyJ (Life is a God-given inalienable right to all Americans - not just the chosen ones.)
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To: Sun
Hm.....yes we do. In fact a possible glimpse of our future (joking right now of course).

The AMA has a nice office in Washington. Any legislator can, for a fee, come to them and discuss problems encountered with certain portions of society. Upon arrival they meet the 'administrator' and say, "Sir, we are having the devil of a time with these pro-lifers on our new bill to have an evaluation of every baby born to make sure it meets the standard criteria of life - is there anything you can do to help us?"

"Well Sen. HonestandTrustworthy, you have heard of our new "Custom Care" plan haven't you? We discuss other aspects of a person's whole being before we make critical medical decisions about their best interests."

"Now if you wish to input problems with some of our 'care requesters' you just fill out this little form and we will see that any that seek our care will have this included as part of the evaluation session."

"We will send the bill for this service to a P.O. Box you designate."

"We understand in our society that some people when ill can override their rights to certain things and we have developed this method to insure that their illness inspired actions do not undermine the proper functioning of other portions of American life."

110 posted on 06/23/2005 9:06:35 AM PDT by ClancyJ (Life is a God-given inalienable right to all Americans - not just the chosen ones.)
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To: FairOpinion

This is no surprise to me. They are dehydrating them now rather routinely.


111 posted on 06/23/2005 9:39:11 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: tutstar
if it is in the patient's best interests.

But decided by the physician. Or the bioethics committee.

112 posted on 06/23/2005 9:40:22 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: Keith in Iowa
reaffirms existing AMA policy that says it is ethical in some cases to discontinue life-sustaining treatment if it is in the patient's best interests.
Existing AMA policy did not help Schiavo and "did not help the courts and Congress keep their noses out"

Doctors are proclaiming that only they can ethically decide if a person should live or die. Doctors are saying they are above the courts and congress.

113 posted on 06/23/2005 9:48:12 AM PDT by oldbrowser (You lost the election.....get over it.)
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To: mizmoutarde

I'm wide awake and scared out of my mind at what is happening to our world!


114 posted on 06/23/2005 10:18:44 AM PDT by Halls
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To: Hildy

We are pyschotic? I guess YOU can say we are since we have seen with our own eyes that the medical establishment kills people. It just happend in Florida, or don't you remember?


115 posted on 06/23/2005 10:20:26 AM PDT by Halls
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To: FairOpinion

another reason why I'm not a member.......


116 posted on 06/23/2005 10:22:13 AM PDT by tomswiftjr (Remember Pearl Harbor)
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To: Gondring

I used to send my science fiction to the Writers of the Future contest. But never again.

I will quiz any doctor I go to on their opinion on Terri. If they were for the death by dehydration. If they favored her death I would leave and find a different doctor.


118 posted on 06/23/2005 10:45:44 AM PDT by LauraJean (sometimes I win sometimes I donate to the equine benevolent society)
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To: Goodgirlinred
That is not what this means. If your organs are shutting down, the doctor would not use extreme measures to keep you alive.

From the AMA:

Even if the patient is not terminally ill or permanently unconscious, it is not unethical to discontinue all means of life-sustaining medical treatment in accordance with a proper substituted judgment or best interests analysis. (I, III, IV, V)

119 posted on 06/23/2005 12:56:21 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: Hildy
If there is no written consent, assume life.

But Hildy, that's not what it says. It starts out sounding like that but changes. The last is a kick.

Even if the patient is not terminally ill or permanently unconscious, it is not unethical to discontinue all means of life-sustaining medical treatment in accordance with a proper substituted judgment or best interests analysis. (I, III, IV, V)

AMA

120 posted on 06/23/2005 1:19:25 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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