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ARE THE DOWNING STREET MEMOS FAKE?
FrontpageMag ^ | 20 June 05 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 06/20/2005 1:22:12 PM PDT by stm

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To: stm

Field day ? The MSM is backing away from this memo like a crawdad from a hungry bass. So is John F'n Kerry, who promised to lead the charge for W's impeachment.


22 posted on 06/20/2005 1:41:55 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: stm

Looks like CBS just found their replacement for the nightly news.


23 posted on 06/20/2005 1:42:14 PM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: All
Dear Mr. Smith..

Apparently, you can't follow directions. You were not suppose to burn the originals, just say they were in a safe place. Then we were going to burn YOUR place.

By the way, I'm not happy about my favorite, old IBM and it appears that you neglected to return my favorite element.

P.S. We'll probably still burn your place. DR

24 posted on 06/20/2005 1:43:00 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

The FBI agent never said such a thing as Durbin claimed


25 posted on 06/20/2005 1:44:23 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I'm waiting for the Little boy Who Cried Wolf moment, when everbody hears something from MSM and just shrugs and says "Who the heck knows? What's on ESPN?"


26 posted on 06/20/2005 1:45:03 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: chesley

At least we are in the fight now. We have been silent on this to long. We need a war room not just by tv but by radio and esp. the internet. Does anyone follow blogs and sites to find out what is being said. I hope we are not to late to the game. God help our president.


27 posted on 06/20/2005 1:46:41 PM PDT by newconhere
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To: stm

You know calling these memos the Downing Street Memos is a liberal technique to give creditability to the memos by attempting to tie the memos to Tony Blair whose residence as England's PM is No. 10 Downing Street. The Downing Street Memos are really the Fleet Street Memos. Fleet Street in London is the traditional home of the national press which we refer to as the MSM.


28 posted on 06/20/2005 1:48:30 PM PDT by hflynn
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To: Patrick1

I bet the only difference is the changing of the word "affixed" to "fixed."


29 posted on 06/20/2005 1:51:17 PM PDT by wizardoz
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To: maestro
".was the 'blue dress' fake?"

But, didn't you ever wonder? Freeh was head of the FBI and Reno was AG and the FBI lab was under tremendous pressure for many recent failures. The FBI could have said it was Abraham Lincoln's DNA and who could have said otherwise?

Think how easy it would have been to have the FBI lab say, "No Match." The whole thing would have gone away, easy-peasy! But, it didn't because Monica was a diversion, a big flash to take everyones' attention from the real crimes Willie was doing. Who would have thought there were Republicans with enough brass to impeach Willie?

Just because "rea;" fakes would have gone much farther doesn't make these documents "non-fakes." Often, (as with the stain) proof/admission of a little crime is enough to keep opponents away from the bigger crime. These are fakes and plausable, not outrageous, but still fakes.

30 posted on 06/20/2005 1:51:30 PM PDT by Tacis ( SEAL THE FRIGGEN BORDER!!!)
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To: stm
Could care less if true or false. It was U.S. policy to evict Saddam from power. By an act of Congress, sign by the president (i42) circa 1998.

Who cares anyway? It sure isn't the general public.

Regardless, I think we should sic Dan Rather on the story. I'm sure he will come up with something...right, Kenneth?

5.56mm

31 posted on 06/20/2005 1:53:58 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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"They are probably not fake. If you fake something at least make it relevant and interesting. DSM does neither.

If they are fake then whoever did it needs to go to the Dan Rather seminar on false reporting held every other Wednesday night at the Washington Bureau of Newsweek Magazine."

Seriously. Who gives a s*** about this Downing Street Memo? It proves nothing.


32 posted on 06/20/2005 1:55:33 PM PDT by anticommunist8
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To: stm
It doesn't help that Smith went to such weird lengths -- such as the manual typewriter and artificially aging the appearance through multiple copying -- to produce the information.

Reminds me of Perry Mason's Case of the Elusive Element. I suppose by this standard the Jews need to disprove the "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion."

NYT Headline: "Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS, Fake but Accurate, Experts Say"

33 posted on 06/20/2005 1:57:45 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Deadcheck the embeds first.)
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Go to the "last," work back, and be sure to follow all the links within the links:

Downingstreetmemo- Smoke, but where's the Fire?

34 posted on 06/20/2005 2:02:39 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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“It was these photocopies that I worked on, destroying them shortly before we went to press on Sept 17, 2004,” he added. “Before we destroyed them the legal desk secretary typed the text up on an old fashioned typewriter.”

Why an old-fashioned typewriter?

Why indeed? So they would appear authentic? Why even bother if you were going to admit they were copies anyway?

The answer is that at some point the reporter intended these to be taken for the originals. If there is another credible explanation I'd love to know what it is.

35 posted on 06/20/2005 2:03:26 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: stm
Here's the DUmmie thread.
36 posted on 06/20/2005 2:07:50 PM PDT by Maceman (The Qur'an is Qur'ap.)
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To: Maceman

They should issue straightjackets with their username's over there. There's an awful lot of insanity and inbreeding over at that place


38 posted on 06/20/2005 2:16:44 PM PDT by stm
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To: HitmanNY
I would think that if they were fakes, they would have been a lot more damning.

The reporter has already admitted they are fakes. The question now is whether the information within is fake as well. Given how the documents don't really actually say anything without serious twisting, I suspect that they are probably based upon real documents.

39 posted on 06/20/2005 2:22:06 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: hflynn
Calling them "Fleet Street Memos" still gives them credibility.

How about "the Page 3 Memos", after said page on that bastion of good journalism, "The Sun"?

40 posted on 06/20/2005 2:32:37 PM PDT by ssaftler (Until recently, California had the worst Senators on the hill. Thank you, Turban Durbin!)
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