Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2

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FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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FR Quick Ping List (copy & paste) - active posters to the thread
(there is no real ping list - I really do not have one and I do not plan to make one)
Andy'smom;bonfire;brigette;kcvl;maggiefluffs;No Surrender No Retreat;Palladin;Rippersnapper;sarasota;TexKat;theophilusscribe

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

 

[Quilla]

My daughter has an AOL account for Instant Messenger set up on one of my office computers as she assists me part time. The username and password are held in memory and I can log on to her account at any time.

[monkeywrench]

"Now all the "players/takers" those who have been benefitting from crime are all in a panic for fear of what will be found,"

I'm sure that activity has come to a crawl with all the scrutiny. It has to be costing them big time. Probably why Beth Twitty is saying she won't leave. She sknows it's hurting the bad guys.

Surely, the bad aruban govt. guys are working with the venezuelan and columbian bad guys. Maybe Mr. Twity stumbled across something on a business trip.

[maggief]

Somehow when the first reference to "cowboys" was made, I knew, I just knew it would come to this.

You are right, Cajungirl.

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CNN:

Croes says he saw the three drop off Natalee at hotel, confiming first tale by the trio, that's way he's being held.

[Howlin]

He was a retired policeman!

[CitizenM]

I'm sure that activity has come to a crawl with all the scrutiny. It has to be costing them big time

Yes, I have been thinking that also. With the FBI, media, etc. all over the place I am sure the cartel business has come to a hault, or close to it. That is what is hurting them, not the tourist trade loss.

But, although Beth Twitty may have some ideas about this, I am sure she only cares about finding her daughter. Any of the illegal activity being discovered might be enlightening, but I bet she is trying to just focus on Natalee. Unfortunately, perhaps, she might be learning things along the way, that no one wants known.

However, as long as the media keeps supporting her, interviewing her, watching her...she is safe. No one would harm her. But, without that spotlight, she could be in danger also.

I don't know if the post a few days ago about some relatives in Alabama receiving "threats" is true, but if what I am thinking has any speck of reality, perhaps they did, indeed, receive something that frightened them.

[maggief]

Did you catch his name?

[maggief]

Perhaps Mr. Twitty should take a polygraph and challenge the radio station to put the same pressure on Mr. vdS.

[maggief]

SM:

TOP is interviewing Elio (the saem guy on fox that would coem up with questioning themother and they would cut him off) hes saying that waht he wanted to sayis that mayeb themother has somethigns that might help wiht anyinvestigaition becuase who knows her better than her mom?? I didint want it to comein a "bad" way but we need to understand thisis basic procedure but everytime we come up w/ this they just attackus like were blamign the parents ...were not but again you ahve to rule out everything...we jsut want to brign this case to a good finaly...the national police association of New Jerseay has also defended sayignthe bashign of the police is just unneccesary, and they also complained that all theforensic is going to holland...you needto understand weve been using this lab for over 50 years and not jsut becuase its an american thats lost then automatically we have to turn everythign over to the fbi no....it could have been venezuelan, chinese, japanese,european american WHATEVER it ALL goes to our lab in Holland.....after the interview I had with fox and everyone could see how i waws cut off eerytime they appoligized to me and just asked that i dont brign that up anymore...and they were truly sorry for doing that and not going through info w/ me first and asked me foor another interview which i just did this morning...(this is all the Elio man on TOP95)

[Howlin]

No, I sure did not; I was in and out and just caught part of it.

[monkeywrench]

"I am sure she only cares about finding her daughter."

Sorry, what I meant was, their loss strengthens her hand.

[elli1]

Am I to understand from this that Natalee's parents have not been questioned by the Aruban police?

[CitizenM]

Oh, I understood you and didn't think you meant anything negative. I was just elaborating further on what might be happening. Like so many others, the intrique of this is driving us to to conjure up all sorts of possibilities. None of which, parts of which, or lots of which might be true.

[Malichi]

bookmark

[sodpoodle]

With their "Criminal Justice System" almost exclusively in the control of police investigators and Judges, this is a system asking for corruption (absolute power). I noted previously how the local reporters are either uninformed or scared to death. They stammer around making excuses for the Govt., or act as if Natalee's disappearance is just one huge inconvenience.

I do believe this is a vipers' nest....a Potemkin village perhaps.

sp

[Rippersnapper]

Might mean that he could be bought to say anything to steered him to say?? Wonder how many others just like him are on the island. Even theaverage joe smoe has an angle to work. lol

[Quilla]

I don't know elli1, but I did learn an interesting tidbit this morning watching Fox & Friends First. A private investigator was commenting on the case and mentioned that Natalee's parents gave the police the names and addresses of the three young men (Joran and the two brothers) shortly after their arrival in Aruba. He stated the parents did the majority of the initial investigating and implied that the locals were incompetent.

[sarasota]

There is a website for donations. Something like Texasequus.com? Should be easy to google.

[the Deejay]

Won't Aruba put the dogs in
quarantine for a period of
time?

[PBRSTREETGANG]

See post #589

[af_vet_1981]

Won't Aruba put the dogs in quarantine for a period of time?

Not if they spend money in the casinos