Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2

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FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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FR Quick Ping List (copy & paste) - active posters to the thread
(there is no real ping list - I really do not have one and I do not plan to make one)
Andy'smom;bonfire;brigette;kcvl;maggiefluffs;No Surrender No Retreat;Palladin;Rippersnapper;sarasota;TexKat;theophilusscribe

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

 

[Quilla]

Along with her appearance on CourtTV, Ashleigh and her husband, Howard Gould, are expecting a baby - she might be taking it easy for a little while.

[xsmommy]

we are in dire need of an uplifting devil's panties thread after all of these sad, frustrating, infuriating stories lately.

[WestCoastGal]

Thanks to you both I've wondered about her.

She really was fabulous doing live shots there after 9-11.

[sodpoodle]

If your assessment is correct, and I think you made some good arguments, the most intriguing character in this case then, will be Mr. Paulus Van der Sloot.

Is he a teacher? a civil servant? a former prosecutor with no legal training? What is motivating him to want to be a Judge in this small island? Fixed trial outcomes?

If his 17 yr old son arrived home between 1:00 and 2:00 a.m. what was VDS Sr. doing at 3:00 am near McDonalds? Where was the son at 3:00 a.m.? What type of facilities are close to McDonalds? Were father and son together? What car were they driving? Who else was present?

Diabolical.

[maggief]

From SM:

-ARUBA RADIO IS ON A JAG AGAINST THE "ARROGANCE" OF THE TWITTYS AGAIN. SAY MR. TWITTY SHOULD BE QUESTIONED BY COPS FOR HIS HOSTILE ATTITUDE. REPORTING THAT NATALEE SIGNED IN HER AOL EMAIL ACCT ON 7 JUNE. THE TWITTYS HAVE STIRRED THE HIVE... WILL IT CONTRIBUTE TO THE SOLUTION OF THE CASE? I WISH YOU WOULD ALL LISTEN TO THIS DAILY RADIO BROADCAST

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They are saying Natalee signed into her AOL email account on June 7th? I wonder if it was a family member who did this?

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YEP, SAID IT TWICE.
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[sarasota]

Well if there's "no crime" on this island, being a judge sounds like a pretty cushy scenario. That is reason enough, IMO.

[elli1]

Jockeys for her don't wear out!

Another Jockeys For Her fan here...cost more up front but are cheaper in the long run. Watch for a sale & give them a try.

[sodpoodle]

Think carefully.

Sometimes liars use pieces of truth in their explanations.

Joran was quoted as saying that he and Natalee swapped e-mails. Perhaps he obtained her password and was hacking into her account. These are not novices.

think and think again

[sodpoodle]

that's another plausible scenario;)

very good;)

sp

[cajungirl]

Interesting,,Twittys getting the Arrogant American designation. Will it ever end?

Illustrates how important it is for their to be a united country. And how destructive it is for domestic people, you know who I mean, to stir this pot for those who would take advantage of it.

Somehow when the first reference to "cowboys" was made, I knew, I just knew it would come to this.

[cajungirl]

Also illustrates the colonial era posture of the Dutch. Probably a way to keep the natives in check. I can see the Dutch bureaucracy twittering over the aggressive Americans.

We truly need to show Aruba how arrogant, how really arrogant, we can be.

[maggief]

I don't for one minute believe Natalee logged on to her AOL account. IF her account was accessed my guess would be it was by a family member.

The one thing I get from this radio report is that these announcers/reporters are hostile towards the Twitty family.

[cajungirl]

Oh why just show Aruba. Why not every Dutch holding over there. The entire Netherland Antilles.

The natives aren't the villains in this piece. My guess is they suffer under this.

[txrangerette]

Along those lines of bringing up things to take the heat off of Van der Sloot, the point seems to be to throw suspicion on Natalee's friends from Mountain Brook and/or Natalee's family. This slimeball type was being interviewed by Bridget Quinn on FNC a couple days ago...did not catch who he represented...anyway, this Aruban said that it was Natalee's friends and family who should be taking lie detector tests about her disappearance. Then added, as the time ran out, "but nobody wants to hear that" and shrugged his shoulders in mock resignation and victimhood. I about lost it.

[CitizenM]

Is he a teacher? a civil servant? a former prosecutor with no legal training? What is motivating him to want to be a Judge in this small island? Fixed trial outcomes?

Truly I don't know. But my "feeling" is that Paulus VDS is some sort of small fish, but has some knowledge of "things." You know, kinda like the cocky mafia member who isn't really influencial, but hangs out and does some cover ups and dirty work. Maybe he fled the Netherlands because of some difficulty there, (got caught up in something nasty) it got "hot" for him and he had friends who set him up in Aruba. Maybe they gave him some petty job with the appearance of decency. All the while, he remains "beholden" to them.

Now his kid has brought all this attention to the island...and Paulus is on the hot seat. He had to help his son (dispose of Natalee??)in order to maintain his position. The govt. really does not care what happened to Natalee - or truly now, even Joran VDS. They would rather it just all went away. But Natalee's mother, family, the US media, and Americans would not let it just go away. Now all the "players/takers" those who have been benefitting from crime are all in a panic for fear of what will be found, and who might be implicated in participating in the underworld activities of Aruba's elite.

I would think if I am even close with any of my assumptions, Paulus VDS is between the rock and hard place. He is probably shaking in his boots. He is a small fry in this -- who knows just enough and might, in order to save himself and his son say too much. Hence he might be considered quite expendable.

[ContemptofCourt]

Why not every island in the Carribean?

The imagination of some people on this thread is enlightening.

[WestCoastGal]

Texas search group bringing people from 5 different states.

They are having trouble with the charter and it is very expensive!

He is hoping a corporation will donate transportation and/or donate money to help with this search. His equipment will work 24 hours a day in the water searching for her.

This will cost many hundreds of thousands of dollars. Aruba should pay for it in my opinion, but they won't, so I hope someone in this country will step up and help out!! I'm willing to bet they do.

[pnz1]

Also says they will not let the search team dogs on the plane. They'll have to charter a plane?

[txrangerette]

See #734

[pnz1]

Sorry, I didn't see your post.