Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2

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FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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FR Quick Ping List (copy & paste) - active posters to the thread
(there is no real ping list - I really do not have one and I do not plan to make one)
Andy'smom;bonfire;brigette;kcvl;maggiefluffs;No Surrender No Retreat;Palladin;Rippersnapper;sarasota;TexKat;theophilusscribe

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

 

[sarasota]

The media is responding to America's hunger for Hollywood drama. Perfect case: young blond American goes missing in idyllic island paradise. You know the rest. High drama.

[spectre]

You darn right they have to keep this story alive. If it didn't get round the clock coverage, it would grow cold and disappear. Natalee's parents don't want that, and neither do many of us. We know the boys are in someway responsible for her disapperance...if only because they lied at the beginning about where they dropped her off...duhh.

You'll get your wish if this case isn't resolved shortly.

sw

[Rippersnapper]

It's not like there's a war going on with American soldiers involved, or anything.

Yes and there was a soldier killed today and an 8 month old baby and I think they said 38 others. Gee, how did I know that? Oh yeah because the media REPORTED it. How can that be, if they don' ttalk about anything other than the NH case? Right now they are talking about Seattle and a court house lock down. Gee, guess the media isn't as bad as you want to portary them. Tired of the NH story? They maybe you are on the wrong thread.

[texasbluebell]

A reliable source on the island of Aruba has confirmed reports of a recent murder / decapitation, and also confirmed reports of another murder currently under investigation in Aruba. A third report regarding a possible new missing person report filed today has not been confirmed at this time.

For such a crime-free place, there have certainly been enough problems recently. Two murders, a missing person, and oh yes, Natalee who is also still missing.

But there's already NO connection between Natalee and these other crimes, according to LE.

Color me skeptical.

[soundandvision]

Tired of the NH story? They maybe you are on the wrong thread.

I was commenting on the coverage I've seen and that it's largely being blown out of all preportions. This is an update story not a sit around and speculate for hours in primetime story. Especially when there are much more important things to speculate and debate about. The list is long and I'm sure we all know the topics.

How else to voice my opinion about the coverage of NH than to comment in a thread about the NH story?

[cherry]

If I was a betting person, I would bet that Nat has gone to Jesus earlier than planned....hope not.....but its looking like that.....

when ever this investigation stops....some say it never began......Beth Twitty should go on Oprah, the View, Hannity, Larry King, Nancy Grace etc ad nauseum in an effort to stop these HS trysts that are making so much money for that island....

its a dangerous ilse with a checkered past and present....it is showing that it really can't protect people because apparently, there is a kidnapper just running around free, not to mention people getting their heads practically cut off....

Beth needs to make a huge PR stink, and perhaps then, more parents will think twice before these trips to that island......

money is the only thing that gets thru to these people....

[MAWG]

If you've got a problem with the MSM, take it up with them. Your objections are noted and discarded here. This is for most of us, the third leg of a continuing thread that started June 1. You are WAY BEHIND. We are trying to FIND NATALEE! Get with it or get lost.

[varina davis]

Something in here about Joran VDS being awarded an MVP in sports this spring. Was unable to copy info:

PDF] Marriott celebrates the “Oscars” Night of the stars File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML The green fire of Colombia,. famed throughout history for. captivating the hearts of women ... and Joran Van der Sloot in. boys softball, Alexandre ...

[Palladin]

Thanks for the new thread, brigette, and all the links. This is the best place on the net to come for info on the Natalee Holloway case.

[Palladin]

Why do Paulus and Anita Van der Sloot remind me so much of John and Patsy Ramsey?

[MAWG]

I dont think they look anything like the Ramseys.

[cherry]

"All of her friends interviewed on TV (not surprisingly), said they were all "drinking responsibly." THAT I find hard to swallow."

I think the drinking age in Alabama is 18 like most of the country....

so how can an 18 yro drink "responsibly" if they have legally never drank before?.....

I don't want to quibble with the students that went....we were all young once...we know what's it like....not once of us could say honestly that we drank "responsibly" at 18.....

[Palladin]

As long as they were on beach patrol they should have reported their results. If her flight was for a few days later, maybe, but what RESPONSIBLE teen MISSES their flight? She was a responsible person. To assume this was a fling is just another act of negligence. jmo

This is the legacy of stupid sluts like Jennifer Wilbanks, and that loopy drama queen Audrey Seiler. Now when sensible, responsible girls like Natalee go missing, the authorities all assume that it is another case similar to that of the dingbats.

Instead of throwing Wilbanks in prison, she is rewarded with book and movie deals.

That is what is wrong with American popular culture. The good girls have to suffer because of the idiocy of the promiscuous and selfish ones.

[cajungirl]

I drank responsibly at 15 with an occasional drunken binge.

[Rippersnapper]

Good point. Those that would cry wolf have made it so that trule missing person's cases get put on the back burner. By the time authorities are willing to acknowledge that its atrue missing person's case, the trail is cold and evidence gone.

[cherry]

personally, I didn't "drink" .....I guzzled....and started at age 16 because in NYS at that time, the legal age was 18 and you could always get some stuff a little "early".......LOL

but you know my point about the "responsible" stuff......

[maggief]

Best friends ... Jaime and Freddy.

[Palladin]

No no no. Not looks. The sleaze factor. Ramseys were rich punks who lawyered up right away to avoid prosecution for the death of a child that occurred in their home under their supervision.

I don't know if Natalee was brought home to Joran's apartment the night she died. But for all the parents knew--anything goes. A 17-year-old drunk with unlimited money and uncircumscrided hours, in his own place, obscured from the 'rents home by thick brush and trees.

Anything could have gone on in Joran's place, and anything did.

The elder Van Sloot--never pictured without a drink in his hands--has lawyered up. Just what is his involvement in the disappearance of Natalee?

Don't they have an AA Chapter on Aruba?

They sure need one, from the pics I've
been viewing, with 15 year olds and younger imbibing at will. All while in the company of their indulgent parents.

[MAWG]

Maggie, are you on Aruba? If you are, do you know the name Anthony Arendas or Arendz? He supposedly comes from a very wealthy family on Aruba that is in the oil business.I understand that his family lives in a large house and or compound. I appreciate any info you may have. Thank You.

[Palladin]

That is a crock of S*** that those kids were drinking responsibly. Everyone who has been to Carlos @ Charlie's say the bartenders pour with a heavy hand. Those kids were all bombed out of their gourds--how else could they have let one of their own go off with three islanders on the night before departure?

These kids--the ones I've seen on O'Reilly-- are doing a big CYA for themselves and the chaperones.

There are lawsuits to follow, and the chaperones have a big target printed on their azzes.