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Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Link to Previous Thread ^ | 6/20/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/19/2005 10:14:36 PM PDT by stlnative

FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923


FR Quick Ping List (copy & paste) - active posters to the thread
(there is no real ping list - I really do not have one and I do not plan to make one)
Andy'smom;bonfire;brigette;kcvl;maggiefluffs;No Surrender No Retreat;Palladin;Rippersnapper;sarasota;TexKat;theophilusscribe


Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.


PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)


 


TOPICS: US: Alabama; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: aruba; corruption; croes; daterapedrug; deepak; ghb; holloway; joran; kidnapped; mafia; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; satish; sloot; tourism; travel; vandersloot
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To: eleni121
Maybe Natalee's mom can't stand the thought of spending any more time with the Sloots after the first time. I saw her pull away when the Sloot woman kissed her.

Did you read my whole post? Natalee's mother pressed for this interview, and kept pressing. When Greta asked why, she said she wanted access. Then next day she takes the access opportunity and tosses it? She taunted them into the first interview, then begs for a second one, but doesn't show.

1,601 posted on 06/22/2005 6:32:28 PM PDT by Rippersnapper
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To: jbeachgrl5
America has her own Aruba, it's called H-a-w-a-i-i

You're right about Hawaii.

I've found this to be true w/ all island countries.

Fiji and New Zealand as well.

1,602 posted on 06/22/2005 6:34:24 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: onyx
No real news today except Shep reported that the authorities put the brothers and JVDS is the same room and VDS chnaged his story about which brother picked him up, after the one brother asked VDS "why are you lying?"

They are in the same room in prison? Why? So they can keep matching up their stories?

1,603 posted on 06/22/2005 6:34:25 PM PDT by Rippersnapper
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To: Rippersnapper
Maybe they "bugged" the cell??? Ya think?

sw

1,604 posted on 06/22/2005 6:36:18 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (What happens in Aruba..stays in Aruba))
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To: Rippersnapper

No, apparently they brought them together into the same room to see what would happen. They're being housed separately.


1,605 posted on 06/22/2005 6:36:43 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: CitizenM
She stated that Natalee's "best friend" was not on the trip. Not even her very good friends were along.

I wonder why they didn't go. Parent's didn't like the set up?

1,606 posted on 06/22/2005 6:38:15 PM PDT by Rippersnapper
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To: Rippersnapper
Maybe they couldn't afford it?

Rip, an honest question...What's troubling you about this case? No flame intended..just curious.

1,607 posted on 06/22/2005 6:40:40 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (What happens in Aruba..stays in Aruba))
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To: the Deejay

I think her experience is not that uncommon. Statistically speaking the risk of meeting a young guy on an island, a guy from a middle class kind of family, at age 17 and talking with him and taking a ride is probably not that bad.


1,608 posted on 06/22/2005 6:45:22 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: Rippersnapper
They are in the same room in prison? Why? So they can keep matching up their stories?

Just for part of the interrogation of Joran

They are probably offering a reduced sentence for the least culpable perp(s) in exchange for truthful testimony

1,609 posted on 06/22/2005 6:46:26 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: demkicker


I think I might be the only one here who has faith in the Aruban police. I sort of like their system... keeping the investigation away from the media. If only they'd keep Natalee's family apprised.


1,610 posted on 06/22/2005 6:47:40 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: Rippersnapper

Rude? RUDE?

I wish I could do bigger print. How dare you judge her as rude,,,HER DAUGHTER IS PROBABLY DEAD AT THEIR SON'S HANDS and you would call her rude for changing her mind.


1,611 posted on 06/22/2005 6:48:34 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: maggiefluffs
I was just pointing out that in my opinion and quite possibly to other viewers that saw the show it is going to make Natalee's mom look bad. Sorry if you don't like that, but it is the truth. Sure she might think he is involved. I think he is involved, but being a b*tch may not get the the answers she wants and just might cost her some support. I said might.

I just found the whole thing very sureal.

Let's see, had Natalee's mom kept the appointment but when she and Greta arrived, were told to forgett about it. You can bet she would be suggesting on tv that they were hiding something. Or maybe call them obnoxious or slimeballs. I'm just suggesting that she shouldn't hold them to higher standards than she wants to be held to herself.

1,612 posted on 06/22/2005 6:51:06 PM PDT by Rippersnapper
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To: maggiefluffs

PS I find it very interesting that no one else in this thread mentioned this incident, but just glossed right on over it. Wouldn't want to be fair or balanced now would we.


1,613 posted on 06/22/2005 6:53:15 PM PDT by Rippersnapper
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To: cajungirl

Beth probably can't stand one more session of them crying and telling her how innocent they think their son is, not to mention the hugs and kisses...


1,614 posted on 06/22/2005 6:53:57 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (What happens in Aruba..stays in Aruba))
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To: Rippersnapper

"being a b*tch" ... sorry, newbie, ya' just lost me.

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1,615 posted on 06/22/2005 6:56:19 PM PDT by maggief
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To: TexKat

You put the rumor of nat running away to rest,,,but some on this thread won't let it rest. They live to cast suspicion on teenagers, nat, her parents,,,,it sickens me.


1,616 posted on 06/22/2005 6:57:27 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: shhrubbery!

I think you are on the wrong thread. Hit the back button. Hope that helps.


1,617 posted on 06/22/2005 6:58:06 PM PDT by Rippersnapper
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To: spectre

Hey, you better google Jossy Mansur and see why he isn't afraid. You will be surprised at what you find. He is "connected"


1,618 posted on 06/22/2005 7:00:08 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: Lizarde
Newsflash - the father just said on Hannity that they are going to arrest 9 or 10 more people - I mean bring them in as witnesses.

That's a lot!

1,619 posted on 06/22/2005 7:01:36 PM PDT by Rippersnapper
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To: Rippersnapper

You are some piece of work Dude,,,you walk in the Mother's shoes for three weeks and see how you feel. And your comment about her acting like a b''' wouldn't get her answers. That sickens me so totally.


1,620 posted on 06/22/2005 7:03:42 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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