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Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Link to Previous Thread ^ | 6/20/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/19/2005 10:14:36 PM PDT by stlnative

FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923


FR Quick Ping List (copy & paste) - active posters to the thread
(there is no real ping list - I really do not have one and I do not plan to make one)
Andy'smom;bonfire;brigette;kcvl;maggiefluffs;No Surrender No Retreat;Palladin;Rippersnapper;sarasota;TexKat;theophilusscribe


Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.


PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)


 


TOPICS: US: Alabama; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: aruba; corruption; croes; daterapedrug; deepak; ghb; holloway; joran; kidnapped; mafia; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; satish; sloot; tourism; travel; vandersloot
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To: maggiefluffs

Totally self serving twaddle by Deepak. The Natalee portrayed here possesses the total opposite of her known character. She's pushy, aggressive, falling down drunk, and chasing men. Also has gambled away $360 of her father's money. Deepak and his brother and chum, Joran, are complete gentlemen, taken advantage of by this slut, and how mean is that! To top it off, they implicate the black guards. No police officer in his right mind would buy this lock, stock, and barrel since the truth usually lies somewhere in the middle, and the girl is missing. This could be the original story, however. They're just stupid and young enough to think it would work.


1,501 posted on 06/22/2005 4:42:16 PM PDT by hershey
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To: monkeywrench

Roger that!!!NSNR


1,502 posted on 06/22/2005 4:44:30 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: maggiefluffs

Sasha is a charmer! Lovely pictures! They must have had a great time.


1,503 posted on 06/22/2005 4:44:43 PM PDT by hershey
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To: txrangerette

Okay, thank you.


1,504 posted on 06/22/2005 4:45:21 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

Flake's good. lol


1,505 posted on 06/22/2005 4:45:51 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; brigette; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; ...
Mother of missing Alabama teen eyes three detained friends

6/22/2005, 11:44 a.m. CT

By PETER PRENGAMAN The Associated Press

ORANJESTAD, Aruba (AP) — The mother of a missing Alabama teenager said Wednesday she has "no doubt" that three young men detained by police have answers to the mystery of what happened to her daughter.

Beth Holloway Twitty, speaking on NBC's "Today" program, also repeated that she believes authorities will make more arrests in the case, though she said she was going on just her intuition. Aruban authorities have refused to comment on that possibility.

Natalee Holloway, an 18-year-old from Mountain Brook, Ala., disappeared in Aruba in the early hours of May 30, the last day of a five-day vacation with 124 students celebrating their high school graduation. Her passport and packed bags were found in her room.

In all, four men have been detained in the case, but no one has been charged.

Speaking of the three detained friends, Holloway Twitty said: "We still don't have any answers — and I have no doubt that they know what and who and where and when and why and how."

On Tuesday, Holloway Twitty told The Associated Press she had a "positive" exchange that day with the parents of one of the three detained men, 17-year-old Dutch honors student Joran van der Sloot.

Holloway Twitty went to the youth's home, knocked on the door, was invited in and spent 90 minutes talking to the parents. She called the conversation "positive" but declined to describe it in detail.

"There was an interaction and there is nothing else I want to disclose right now," she said.

Holloway Twitty last met with Paul and Joran van der Sloot on the night of May 30, about 12 hours after Natalee missed her plane back home. She has described that meeting as tense and uncomfortable.

Meanwhile, a volunteer Texas rescue group has postponed until Friday a trip to Aruba to help search for the teenager because of delays in getting permits for their search dogs.

Investigators refuse to say whether they believe Holloway is dead. Her mother has said she will continue to believe the teen is alive until she has proof to the contrary.

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On the Net:

http://www.texasequusearch.org

Texas group in search for missing Ala. teen claims 70 percent success rate in 450 searches

6/22/2005, 5:24 p.m. CT

By PAM EASTON The Associated Press

DICKINSON, Texas (AP) — The search-and-rescue group Texas EquuSearch has an admirable history of success: In 450 searches for missing people, it has found its target 70 percent of the time.

Now the group is turning its attention to a missing person — Alabama teen Natalee Holloway — whose disappearance has stumped hundreds of police and volunteers for more than three weeks.

EquuSearch is sending volunteers to Aruba this week to begin a hunt for Holloway at her family's request. The organization plans a full-scale, round-the-clock ground and water search with trained divers, night vision goggles and sonar equipment, EquuSearch volunteer Joe Huston said.

"We expect to be able to look at Aruba and see something that other people haven't seen," Huston said. "We have a very good record of finding people."

EquuSearch was created five years ago by Tim Miller after his 16-year-old daughter, Laura, disappeared in Texas and was found dead 17 months later. Funded through donations, the group performs background checks on its 250 members, offers search-and-rescue training and uses a bevy of specialized search equipment.

Group volunteers helped recover remains after last year's deadly tsunami and have assisted in numerous searches for missing children. Harris County Sheriff's homicide Detective Ben Beall said EquuSearch can be especially helpful in large counties like his, where wooded areas and vast stretches of land can hinder search efforts.

"They have always been just very cooperative and they definitely are a help," Beall said.

Paul Reynolds, an uncle of the missing girl, said he asked EquuSearch to help because of its expertise. He said Holloway's family is frustrated by sporadic search efforts and lack of information from officials on the island.

"Most of the searches have been done by volunteers, either persons who live on the island or tourists," Reynolds said. "We are just hoping that their capabilities are more extensive."

Of the missing persons the group has found, 85 percent were found alive, group officials say. But Huston acknowledged that the odds lessen with time — and there could be added difficulty if Holloway ended up in the Caribbean Sea.

"If she is in the water, there may not be a whole lot left of her," he said.

Holloway, 18, disappeared while on vacation with classmates in Aruba, a tourist hotspot off the coast of Venezuela. Aruban authorities, FBI observers, tourists and local volunteers have scoured the island since her May 30 disappearance without success.

1,506 posted on 06/22/2005 4:47:24 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: texasbluebell
I think it was Rush today who came out with this: "Do you know that van der Sloot translates as Kennedy in Dutch?"

Thanks, that's priceless. It's obvious to Rush and many of us that van der sloot is getting very special treatment....

1,507 posted on 06/22/2005 4:48:07 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: monkeywrench

It doesn't seem that clear to me. Did she see her at C and C when she was leaving. So far nobody has said she went backto the hotel.


1,508 posted on 06/22/2005 4:50:13 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: hershey
"This could be the original story, however. They're just stupid and young enough to think it would work."

I think this e-mail was the outline of their original story, most of which has fallen apart at this point.

What really troubles me is the part that says she wanted to see sharks. I have a feeling that is what happened only it wasn't her idea. They just added that into their story in case her body ever washes up. They can then say she must have gone in the ocean on her own after they "left her asleep on the beach" We all know now they had days to cook up this story. Was there a date on this e-mail? I have to go back and look.

Does anyone remember the interview with a fisherman about a week ago who told where the sharks are, didn't he say they were not in this area? I'm pretty sure he said they are not around the beaches where the hotels are located. Not sure about the lighthouse.

1,509 posted on 06/22/2005 4:52:16 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (Jr: “Heh.. that’s about the coolest thing that can happen. Other than a win or a great pass ~L Dog)
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To: presently no screen name; the Deejay

The only times I have ever ditched my girlfriends, were for a boyfriend, but they knew who, what and where, beforehand. This just doesn't add up.


1,510 posted on 06/22/2005 4:52:30 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: onyx

It sounds as though he was a little aloof at the gaming table and the girls looked at him as sort of a game, as to who could get his attention.


1,511 posted on 06/22/2005 4:55:24 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Toespi; TexKat


Really? I hadn't heard that. I am just now reading the latest posts by TexKat.


1,512 posted on 06/22/2005 4:58:13 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: Lizarde

Not me!


1,513 posted on 06/22/2005 4:58:29 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: onyx
The only times I have ever ditched my girlfriends, were for a boyfriend, but they knew who, what and where, beforehand.

I hear ya.

Never went off w/a stranger, man or woman.

1,514 posted on 06/22/2005 4:58:41 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: the Deejay


I have, and on an island with someone I had just met, but it turned out fine. The ride I accepted was just a bonafide ride and we made plans for the next day. Still friends 35 years later. :)


1,515 posted on 06/22/2005 5:01:42 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: onyx

Nothing I heard, just speculation on my part and some experience as to how things go with young girls.


1,516 posted on 06/22/2005 5:01:45 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: af_vet_1981
O'Reilly also said they had solid evidence against the two men who were erroneously implicated by the three perps.

A very valid reason for the other teens and chaperones not to speak is not to give the perps or their helpers other versions of the timeline by which they can construct their stories.

I'm playing catch-up on this thread, but when I read your post, it got my attention. So are we now to believe that the two guys who were first tagged (the security guards) and arrested still believed to be involved in Natalee's disappearance? Did I understand you correctly?

1,517 posted on 06/22/2005 5:02:00 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: onyx
You were luuck-eeee..
1,518 posted on 06/22/2005 5:03:39 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: Toespi


LOL! Yeah, I remember those "competitions" lol.


1,519 posted on 06/22/2005 5:03:57 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: demkicker

Greta reporting on her second meeting with the VS's, who want to go on camera to tell about their son.


1,520 posted on 06/22/2005 5:05:19 PM PDT by sarasota
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