Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2

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[the Deejay]

Ah, you're saying the girlfriend(s) might have been a little jealous?

That darkhaired girl? for sure.

Something about her just doesn't sit right w/me.

[the Deejay]

The darkhaired girl on the left of the photo is the one I am referring to.

She is the only girl of the group that went to Aruba, that I question & have done from the first time I saw her in an interview from AL.

She just did not seem at all upset NH was missing.

[MAWG]

Thank you Citizen. I am living proof that prayer works. I am only alive today because of Gods' grace.

[onyx]

Interesting. I missed that. I must have been running my mouth...lol.

Speaking from experience...lol... albeit a long time ago... island romances are wanted by both tourist and the accommodating island boys/men.

I think there was a mutual attraction and it went horridly bad. Those islands really have an aura of safety especially in the tourist locales.

[onyx]

You're right. I had been thinking she was coached to only answer direct questions and not offer additional information, but now I have to agree with you: "something about her just isn't quite right."

[elli1]

Probable answer ... he was acting captain of the boat, though it may have been moored.

That's a possibility that I didn't think of. All that I've been able to confirm is that the Tattoo sails two nights a week for a 'dinner cruise'. Thus, I'm wondering if the boat operates as a docked nightclub on other nights.

But how is the white shirt relevant?

[devolve]

not true

chaperones lied about FBI telling them to keep quiet

O'Reilly checked all the FBI contacts possible - they never gave any such orders to the chaperones

chaperones are just afraid of a civil lawsuit for negligence

they were in Aruba for an "emergency" the chaperones said - was not a missing grad - but missing luggage or such more important things than the 100 grads!

[shield]

Also, Russian Mafia is in Aruba big time per a US Military source.

[onyx]

I don't blame them for fearing a lawsuit or lawsuits.

[cajungirl]

LOL,,I should have been so lucky.

No he had worse plans but was thwarted by me unwittingly,,I upon realizing his intentions as we were driving down a deserted dirt road near New Orleans, put my hand down in my bag to get my cell, it wasn't there and I froze. He stopped, got out of the car, looked in at me with my hand in my bag, frozen. Waited about five minutes, got back in and dropped me off in New Orleans.

Took me a while,,he thought I had a gun!!!!

[cajungirl]

Google the dear man,,I believe he was in the prison in Puerto Rico or Costa Rico. The Mansurs are a connected family according to crime experts. Powerful, monied, came into Aruba after the Casa Nostra was expelled {but they came back anyway} There is a link to all this somewhere on the last thread.

[af_vet_1981]

chaperones lied about FBI telling them to keep quiet O'Reilly checked all the FBI contacts possible - they never gave any such orders to the chaperones chaperones are just afraid of a civil lawsuit for negligence

O'Reilly also said they had solid evidence against the two men who were erroneously implicated by the three perps.

A very valid reason for the other teens and chaperones not to speak is not to give the perps or their helpers other versions of the timeline by which they can construct their stories.

[stlnative]

MORE EMAILS...(you both know where they came from)

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Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 15:26:12 +0000

Thank you for your wonderfull email you send me I really appreciate it.
Things are going better with me now , as you you know there has been 2 arrests i don't know if it comes because the information we gave or just another tip.They were 2 security guards for a hotel nearby the holiday inn where natalee was staying , but we don't have any further information . I would be willing to try making an Id by the police for the 2 suspects i only saw one of them in the news.My parents are doing better now , my friends parents are doing well as well. Although we are almost of the hook we still don't walk much on the streets a lot of fingers are being pointed etc. But the press Is like trying to locate us or something i don't know this morning my friend got a letter for nbc if we were willing to give an intervieuw for a very good price we did not respond to them yet , we don't know if we will give interview as yet. The local press however we won't give any interview they sad a lot of bad things about us they should be ashamed of theirselves.But for now its just from home to work for me , and in the afternoons i go by my friends house we order pizza etc. and watch the news whats going.
Anyways i have to go now , if i have any ipdates i will let you know asap. the press is all over it so i don't think you will be missing any part of it .
As for for natalees parents we did not hear or see them personally yet , the police chief askes us if we would be willing to talk to them if they wanted to talk to us . We accepted that as long they would not talk aggressive to us as they did before.

Take care , Say hi to the others and I will mail you again


bye bye

Deepak.

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Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 23:33:21 +0000

How is everything there. Well they did not say anything yet about the bloody T -shirt. (she asked about the bloody mattress report)
But we are fine, everything goed normal. The only problem was that yesterday there were like 30 reporters at my friends gate. They thought we fled the country , what is ridiculous why would we leave,they were there for like 45 min but my friend stayed in his room did not come out the parents were talking to them they wanted to know my adress thank god they don't know it .
As for the guards i don't know anything yet about them did said they would decide today what they would do with them if they would charge them or something did not understand that part, and yes its in my statement that i am willing to try id the guard. We told the police about the guard so i think that helped the police a lot . But for now she is just vanished i don't understand how she could vanish like this .I never saw this before in my life , this same girl was sitting in my car spoke to me and now she is just lost.But anyways i'm going now , if i have any further information i will let you know, i was planning to go to vacation 30 th of june but if this is not solved i can kiss that vacation goodbye. Lets hope she will be found soon and found well


Take care :

Deepak

[the Deejay]

Are those emails from Deepak genuine?

Where did you find them & are those the only ones?

[No Surrender No Retreat]

Why? Good question possibly because the FBI does not have exclusive or concurrent jurisdiction in this case. Also as a professional courtesy to the Aruban authorites or orders from the Director.

It would be nice to hear some FBI perspective on this case. I am glad you liked my acronym (AINO.) If the shoe does not fit, then you can refrain from wearing it. NSNR

[stlnative]

Make sure you read this if you have not seen it already...

http://www.nynewsday.com/news/nationworld/world/ny-woarub204312713jun20,0,2234101.story?coll=ny-worldnews-headlines

[maggief]

But how is the white shirt relevant?

It's relevant because, IMO, he's wearing the same striped epaulettes as the captain, therefore acting as captain. That would put him in charge of the operation, giving him access to boats, keys, supplies, etc.

[maggief]

Interesting, taking with a grain of salt of course.

Although we are almost of the hook we still don't walk much on the streets a lot of fingers are being pointed etc. But the press Is like trying to locate us or something i don't know this morning my friend got a letter for nbc if we were willing to give an intervieuw for a very good price we did not respond to them yet...

Very odd comment to make ... almost off the hook.

NBC paying for interviews again? LOL

[No Surrender No Retreat]

Monkeywrench, in your own words what is this case all about to you ? I am not being sarcastic, just wondering. NSNR

[maggief]

They're UNCONFIRMED and found here:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/viewtopic.php?t=201&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=680

Here's the first one posted:

dated 6/5/2005


How are you i hope you and your family is fine.(NAME DELETED) is better i tell you the truth , before it will be a shock for you later, but i think it will be a shock for you rightnow.

The missing girl natalee hollaway,I spoke to her , sunday she left with me , my brother and a friend from carlos n' charlies , it was my car like the news said she got in to, I am one of the persons of intrest , i am one the the students they've questioned and released as they claimed in the news .

Let see where to start i don't even know where to begin these last days where so crazy for me i'm very tired haven't slept good in days : The story starts sunday night when a friend of mine was playing poker at a local casino (in the holiday inn) after he won the poker at the fourth place he decided to get up and play some blackjack so he went to the blackjack table and there was natalee (they were a lil drunk ) so my friend started playing blackjack and he was winning quite good , so then natalee approached him and introduced herself and said to him'' your a lucky guy , can you help me win some of my money back i lost $ 360 , of my fathers money'' so my friend said ok , why not . so he started playing and he won 100 $ for her back and he said hey thats the best i can do for you because i doubt it i can win more money for you so its better i quit so she said ok but at least let me buy you a drink so they went to the bar (in the casino ).

so they took a drink and started talking etc. about school, the vacation etc.etc.afterwards my friend had to go and she said that ''today is my last day i will be in carlos n' charlies will you be there'' and my friend said well i have school tomorrow i don't think so . well she begged him and he still said yes i'll be there.So that was in the casino i was not present , i was at work so my friend called me and said hey i met some girls in the casino and her friends and they want us to meet them in carlos tonight do you have to work tomorrow morning i said no , so he said pick me up later then i said ok. so i got off my shift at 10 pm and went home took a bath had to fix something and then me and my younger brother went to pick up my friend was around 12.10 am

so i came to his home and was talked for like 15 min and then left to go to carlos (we all went out without or parents knew) so we arrived like 12.30 am in carlos (carlos is closing 1 pm ) and headed straight for the bar and bought 3 drinks my friend paid for them, so besides the bar there is a stage and people were dancing and there was natalee dancing too (thats the first time i saw her )and she was calling my friend to get on the stage and dance with her my friend laughed and refused so after the song was finished she came up to my friend and asked why he won't dance with her , i only heared that part because i was talking to someone else so i don't know what he responded(by then natalee was VERY drunk)so as i said i was talking to someone when i turned i had lost my brother , natalee and my friend.

well they were announced that they were closing soon so i thought well maybe they' re waiting for me by the car its better i go there so i went to my car and nobody was there so i started playing music and was waiting on my brother and my friend.i waited for like 10 min and then i saw my brother stepping in the car and my friend who was with natalee.

so i was surprised but anyways i started the engine and my brother was besides me and my friend and natalee were in the backseet so i started cruising in the area and asked my friend whats going on so natalee responded to me ''hey its no prob let us just drive around and have fun its my last night , she said you can drop me off later at holiday inn anyways right'' i said sure why not so as i was drove out of the carlos road and got on the mainroad there were natalees friends and she , pushed het head out of the window and screamed something i can't recall.

so i was driving very slow to make a left to get in the next road and then one of natalees friend screamed for her to get out of the car , and she refused so then i stopped my car and i said natalee if your friends want you to go with them its better you go listen to them and go with them , she said no i will stay with you guys i will get a lift from you anways later, so she said bye to her friends and i drove away, so then we were just talking etc, in the car and then she said she wanted to see sharks ,it was by the lighthouse she saw them before that can we go , my friend said ok ,deepak lets go.

so on my my to the lighthouse there was music playing and noone talking for a while when i looked in the backmirror my friend and natalee were kissing and touching (his hands etc was in her blouse but nothing nude or against natalees will ) so my brother siad just leave them for a while untill we get to the lighthouse, when i arrived at the lighthouse i said well here is the lighthouse they did not pay attention to me , so my brother said lets return (i did not stop anywhere not for a min only trafficlights)

so after like 10 min my friend is telling me that natalee fell asleep i said you kidding just wake her up and tell ask her if its holiday inn for sure she is staying so my friend woke her up and confirmed with natalee she was staying at the holiday inn, so i drove to the lobby driveway of holiday inn and then we woke her up, she got out of the car and fell on the floor my friend said damn

she fell and then rushed out of the same door natalee came out and picked her up immediately, after she stood up she pushed my friend and said leave me alone or something like that i can't recall , my friend offered to help het to her room she said no. she he stepped in the car and while i was driving away i saw natalee walking towards the lobby and a gentleman with a walkie talkie and black clothes approached her and i think they were talking and i had never seen natalee again sinds.(holiday inn has no cameras in the driveway or lobby) it was around 2.15 am .

monday i came to work normally 4- 11 pm after work i called my friend i said whats up he said ok i'm at the raddison casino meet me there , i said ok so i went there we played poker , we had some drinks and chat and then we had enough and decided that this casino was booring lets go to whyndham hotel casino . so i drove to whyndham and as i was parking my friends dad called him and said the police is at his home with some family members its about the girl you guys went out with yesterday , so my friend said wait there i be there, so we rushed at my friends home and there was the police and nataless family and it was a nightmare sinds then.

the police asked us if we knew this girl showed us a picture we said yes thats her , they said she was missing and eyewitness say she was the last seen with you guys . so they asked a few more questions and we said we don't understand we left her at holiday inn lobby drive way how could she dissapear and then natalees stepfather jumped and said ''yes thats because after she went with you assholes she lost'' and then my friends father jumped and said thats enough you can't talk to the kids like that this is not the us your out of you juristiction this is not the way i want you people out of my yard i know the law (my friends father is e judge)

so afterwards another family member of natalee suggested to the police if we can id the security gard we said ok. we went there there was no suck security working there as we discribed. so then we were just standing in the lobby there were questions etc. asked by other members , and then me and my friend walked to the car natalees mom was sitting and we said mam you have to believe us we did not do anything with you daughter, she was crying and said i don't believe you 2 , i promise you i will make you life a living hell because of this . anwyas we said we were sorry again ans that we will help in any way possible.

i went home 7 pm tuesday, i was then called 2 pm by the police for questioning i went gave a statement they said i was a witness no suspect the same went for my brother and my friend they were questionded and had to sign their statement also , the checked my car and i was clear to go , wednesday i was called again to show them how i drove the route that day ( i could refuse was my right i still decided to go , as did my brother and friend ) the drove us one by one and then we were free to go again.

thursday morning my friend called me (he goes to aruba international school and his mother is a teacher there and he is a straight A student ) in panic and said there a re family members here at school and they are sharing flyers and the flyers said : GIRL KIDNAPPED ASK JORAN VANDER SLOOT (thats my friends name ) the principle asked them to leave and they did .

so thats my part of the story yesterday and today it was quiet no treathen phoncalls what we got before and i won't mention the crazythings the newspapers etc. writes about us its to much to mention. at home my mom is losing it she is cryimg constantly , my dad bloodpressure got high also his hands are red , my friends home is a disaster also ,his mom is crying constantly also his dad is pretty cool he calmes us down and talks to us also not to worry , my brother is preety cool but on his face you see he is worried , my friend is pretty worried also. i'm pretty worried also ,

we have 2 lawyers one for my friend and one for me in case we get arrested and charched with something his dad can't defend hin he is a judge and he is too emotional attached .my friend has his graduation this thursday he has to go to the states in july he has a full scholarship. i had to go to vacation also end of this month.many politicians find we should be locked up rightnow.

We heard a lot of false alarms that she was dead , she was seen with 2 guys , her hair is cut and is red now ,she was in a crackhouse etc, we were arrested and , my car is by the police we confessed to murder and rape, she went in a restaurant to buy food but none of those were true.

So (name deleted) that was my part of the story what i said here is the same in my statement,people are saying they are bad guys lock them up , the family is going thru a lot righnow , but what they don't know how the other families feel and how they also have a reputation and carreers etc. because when this all is over they will still be talks that were the 3 guys that had something to do with the kidnap of natalee its a small island.

they don't understand the pressure we are having also, if this girl turns up dead we have a problem we were the last seen with her . I lost a lot of friends who think we had to do something with this, many of my friends supported us also brought food etc. for us at home and know we are innocent, we are innocent also we promise i would NEVER hurt anyone in anyway, i would do every everything to help find her thats what we told eveyone also , i would take a bullet to save her and bring her back to her family if i had to so would my friend also.i would never never hurt anyone i'm a very happy and social person who likes to make friends with people and not hurting them


So (NAME DELETED) i will say goodbye now hope you believe me and i pray to god that they find natalee soon and find her well so that this nightmare ends for all of us and they we prove we had nothing to do with this, i hope you pray for all of us say hi to everyone there hope to hear from you soon and may god bless.........

bye bye

Deepak.