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Gitmo remark makes Durbin easy prey
The Chicago Sun Times ^ | June 19, 2005 | Lynn Sweet, WASHINGTON BUREAU CHEIFS (sic)

Posted on 06/19/2005 3:17:18 AM PDT by YaYa123

'There's an old rule in politics, and I've seen it many times," said retired Gen. Wesley Clark on Thursday night, as he brushed aside Fox News talker Sean Hannity's demand for him to condemn Sen. Dick Durbin. "Whoever uses the 'Nazi' word first loses," said Clark, the former Democratic presidential candidate who is a political analyst for Fox.

(Excerpt) Read more at suntimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: dickdurbin; durbin; gitmo; janshakowsky; lynnsweet
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This is the first time Lynn Sweet has written about Durbin's Gitmo comments. She's dodged it all week, and she hasn't answered email either. Evidently The Chicago Sun-Times, unlike The Chicago Tribune, has determined to protect Durbin.

Democrats got their marching orders: "Don't criticize Durbin, criticize the Nazi analogy." Sweet dutifully obeys.

1 posted on 06/19/2005 3:17:19 AM PDT by YaYa123
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I"ll try that link again

http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-sweet19.html


2 posted on 06/19/2005 3:19:15 AM PDT by YaYa123 (@ And again, if I have to.com)
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To: YaYa123

This article appears under a Sun Times "news" heading.

This reads more like an editorial.


3 posted on 06/19/2005 3:43:26 AM PDT by wingman1 (University of Vietnam 1970)
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To: YaYa123

Dick Durbin's getting himself in so deep, he may have to change his name to James Dale,,,,oops that's already taken, ain't it?


4 posted on 06/19/2005 3:45:34 AM PDT by Waco
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To: YaYa123

so i guess wesley clark supports dick durbin's position


5 posted on 06/19/2005 3:50:13 AM PDT by JohnLongIsland
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"I cringe whenever someone -- no matter how well-meaning -- describes some offensive person as a Hitler or accuses someone of being a Nazi. No behavior, I pray, should ever again rise to that level."

I think that beheading people comes fairly close.


6 posted on 06/19/2005 3:55:13 AM PDT by whershey (www.worldwar4.net)
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Democrats picked Durbin (D-Ill.) to be their No. 2 leader because he is one of the most articulate and informed senators on his side of the aisle.

LOL. This is hilarious. Read his remarks carefully. The sentence structure would barely merit a "D". And clearly he is not very "informed" in matters of history.

7 posted on 06/19/2005 3:59:49 AM PDT by Bahbah (Something wicked this way comes)
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I was LOL when I read what Wesley Clark said. It was an echo of every leftie analysts and every democrat who dared speak at all of Durbin's senate floor comments.

I've only heard one Democrat vary from the script. Early on, I think it was on Wed, probably before the word went out, Senator Rockefeller said of Durbin, "well, I probably wouldn't have used those same words." How's that for gutsy?


8 posted on 06/19/2005 4:00:24 AM PDT by YaYa123 (@Notice Sweet didn't say Durbin apologized. Sweet writes he issued a statement of regret.com)
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To: wingman1

OF course, if you praise a standing US Senator on his 100th birthday as a man who would have made a great President, you must resign.

Compare our troops to Nazis is irrelevant.

Thanks, MSM! Keep up the hypocrisy! We will just keep expanding the number of RED states with your rehtoric!


9 posted on 06/19/2005 4:08:48 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (9-11 is your Peace Dividend)
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To: YaYa123

Notice that Turban used the political party of one and the name of the country for the other. I think he purposely did not accuse the "communists" as it would have offended much of his base.


10 posted on 06/19/2005 4:10:11 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Democrats soil the institutions they control)
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To: Bahbah
The democrats other tactic for taking the heat off Durbin is to remind people that Rick Santorum used the nazi analogy too. What Sweet and democrats don't do, is remind people that Rick Santorum apologized within 24 hours. For those who don't remember:

"Sen. Rick Santorum says he "meant no offense" by referring to Adolf Hitler while defending the GOP's right to ban judicial filibusters as Senate leaders prepared to start a countdown Friday to a vote over whether to stop minority senators from blocking President Bush's judicial nominees.

"Referencing Hitler was meant to dramatize the principle of an argument, not to characterize my Democratic colleagues," Santorum, the No. 3 Republican in the GOP leadership in the Senate, said of his remarks Thursday." "

When Republicans do it they apologize." promptly!

11 posted on 06/19/2005 4:10:19 AM PDT by YaYa123 (@Notice Sweet didn't say Durbin apologized. Sweet writes he issued a statement of regret.com)
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'There's an old rule in politics, and I've seen it many times," "Whoever uses the 'Nazi' word first loses,"

In typical Dem fashion, Wesley Clarke just makes up his own facts.
For the record, Wes, it's an old Usenet rule and it's called Godwin's Law and you mangled it.
12 posted on 06/19/2005 4:13:48 AM PDT by visualops (http://www.visualops.com)
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"Referencing Hitler was meant to dramatize the principle of an argument...

And it was an apt analogy. That notwithstanding, any reference to Hitler or Nazis is ill-advised.

13 posted on 06/19/2005 4:14:16 AM PDT by Bahbah (Something wicked this way comes)
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I don't know if former Senator Paul Simon is still with us or not but wonder what he would have to say about his successor?

Durbin has pushed his fat peachy face in front of every camera and microphone he could find since he came over from the House. You could almost see this coming from him. I wonder if he was beaten up a lot when he was in High School?


14 posted on 06/19/2005 4:17:18 AM PDT by leadpenny
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It's also doubtful that Santorum's remarks endangered our troops.

Durbin's statement was deliberately made to embarrass our President and hurt the US effort in winning the WOT.


15 posted on 06/19/2005 4:17:32 AM PDT by wingman1 (University of Vietnam 1970)
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To: YaYa123

And it's also an old rule in politics that when liberals use the "N" word (Nazi), it means they really have no argument to begin with.


16 posted on 06/19/2005 4:17:43 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: Bahbah; YaYa123; All

BTW, C-SPAN is taking calls re the WP Byrd KKK article.


17 posted on 06/19/2005 4:19:51 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Erik Latranyi

"We will just keep expanding the number of RED states with your rehtoric!"

Dean and Durbin and all the rest of the lunatics leading the Dem Party are very unlikely to change anyone's mind.


18 posted on 06/19/2005 4:20:43 AM PDT by wingman1 (University of Vietnam 1970)
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Spin spin spin

"If it is Dick Durbin in trouble, then something is wrong. They are so good at changing the subject," said Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-Ill.).

So Durbin's "in trouble" because the Republicans are using him as a smoke screen against their own problems.

Durbin's analogy, as clumsy as it was, is not where the focus should stay. How the U.S. treats prisoners, how the U.S. is conducting the Iraq war, how the U.S. wins more allies, how the U.S. improves relations with Muslim countries -- yes, and why the U.S. has trouble providing armored plates for Jeeps in combat -- one of Durbin's crusades -- that's what is important.

Author says Durbin's remarks are "clumsy" and unimportant, what's really important is America is doing everything wrong.

Said Obama, "This administration has made a habit of diverting attention of its failures by criticizing the messenger."

Again, Durbin is a victim and it's really all Bush's fault.
19 posted on 06/19/2005 4:24:23 AM PDT by visualops (http://www.visualops.com)
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C-SPAN is taking calls re the WP Byrd KKK article.

Did you catch the title of his 770 page biography. "Robert C. Byrd: Child of the Appalachian Cold Fields" Like some god of Greek mythology he sprang directly from the earth.

20 posted on 06/19/2005 4:26:17 AM PDT by Bahbah (Something wicked this way comes)
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