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To: veronica

When PVS patients get in their wheelchairs and form activist groups, I'll pay attention. Until then, perhaps they should get their noses out of family decision.


4 posted on 06/16/2005 4:45:43 PM PDT by jess35
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To: jess35

So the fact of their helplessness is good enough reason for you to allow them to be treated as property?


5 posted on 06/16/2005 4:58:26 PM PDT by thoughtomator (The U.S. Constitution poses no serious threat to our form of government)
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To: jess35
"Noses out of a family decision"???

The whole problem was that her family never had a chance to get their noses IN. Terri's family (mother, father, brother, sister) unanimously wanted to take her home and care for her IN THE FAMILY.

It was only her estranged husband --- who had long abandoned her maritally, socially, and medically --- and who could personally benefit from her prompt demise --- who was empowered by the courts to seek her death.

This wasn't a case about "strangers sticking their noses in." As soon as Michael Schiavo abandoned his marriage, his guardianship should have been removed and given to HER FAMILY, who never abandoned her; who loved her and wanted to take her home.

And as for the disability groups rallying to her cause: they, more than anybody, know what it is to have their rights taken away and put in the hands of dubious "guardians" who could end up pushing them down the exit ramp.

A terrible precedent. I hope it never happens to you.

6 posted on 06/16/2005 5:12:14 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Terri could be me. Or you.)
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To: jess35
When PVS patients get in their wheelchairs and form activist groups, I'll pay attention. Until then, perhaps they should get their noses out of family decision.

So, if you're not paying attention why are you sticking YOUR nose into this discussion? Hmmmm?

8 posted on 06/16/2005 5:32:43 PM PDT by mc5cents
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To: jess35

So you reserve that pesky little Constitutional right to life for those capabable of fighting for it? It's a right, not a privilege.


9 posted on 06/16/2005 6:03:25 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri Schindler <strike>Schiavo</strike> - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: jess35
Until then, perhaps they should get their noses out of family decision.

You mean your "family" goes around and kills disabled people for money? I suppose if they don't get their noses out of your decision to kill them then you will just kill them, right? Are you Michael?

74 posted on 06/18/2005 3:46:09 PM PDT by SwordofTruth (God is good all the time.)
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To: jess35

A most ridiculous argument. There was no Living Will and a disagreement among family memebers. Therefore, it went to court as many family disputes do. However, in my opinion such cases should be resolved in FAMILY court NOT Probate Court. Terri was not PROPERTY but a PERSON.


76 posted on 06/18/2005 3:53:48 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Terri Schindler wasn't in PVS, justice was!!!!!)
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To: jess35

You are misled and misinformed. This case concerns all human beings and their fundamental right to life whether they are incapacitated mentally or physically. The fire fighter in Buffalo was for many years labeled PVS and has made a crucial recovery in the past few weeks. In his case, his wife stood by him preferring to keep him alive rather than shunt him off to Hospice and death.

There is lots that medical science does not know. And more importantly there is lots about Michael Schiavo we do not know.


100 posted on 06/18/2005 5:35:16 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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