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Fred Phelps to Protest Soldier's Funeral
Seatlle Post-Intelligencer (AP) ^ | June 14, 2005 | Hatman

Posted on 06/15/2005 6:30:56 AM PDT by Hatman

BOISE, Idaho -- A Kansas preacher and gay rights foe whose congregation is protesting military funerals around the country said he's coming to Idaho tomorrow to picket the memorial for an Idaho National Guard soldier killed in Iraq.

A flier on the Web site of Pastor Fred Phelps' Westboro Baptist Church claims God killed Cpl. Carrie French with an improvised explosive device in retaliation against the United States for a bombing at Phelps' church six years ago.

"We're coming," Phelps said yesterday.

Westboro Baptist either has protested or is planning protests of other public funerals of soldiers from Michigan, Alabama, Minnesota, Virginia and Colorado. A protest is planned for July 11 at Dover Air Force Base, the military base where war dead are transported before being sent on to their home states.

Phelps gained national notoriety in 1998 when he picketed the funeral of Matthew Shepard, the gay college student beaten to death in Wyoming.

Since then, Phelps said his church has been the target of hateful words and actions, including a bomb attack six years ago.

Phelps' church has picketed the funerals of AIDS victims for more than a decade.

French, 19, was a Caldwell High School graduate and varsity cheerleader. She was killed June 5 in the northern city of Kirkuk. French served as an ammunition specialist with the 116th Brigade Combat Team's 145th Support Battalion.

Phelps said the fact that French led an all-American life gives him all the more reason to picket her final public tribute.

"An all-American girl from a society of all-American heretics," he said.

"Our attitude toward what's happening with the war is the Lord is punishing this evil nation for abandoning all moral imperatives that are worth a dime," Phelps said.

Caldwell Police Chief Bob Sobba said he cannot bar Phelps from going to the public funeral, which is scheduled for 1 p.m. at the Albertson College of Idaho in that city.

"While we respect Mr. Phelps' right to protest, we would hope that he would respect the family and friends of this young person by not disrupting the memorial," Sobba said.

Idaho Air National Guard Lt. Tony Vincelli, acting as spokesman for French's family, said there were no plans to change the funeral arrangements.

The Rev. Brian Fischer, pastor of Boise's Community Church of the Valley, and himself a past target of protest by the Westboro Baptist Church, decried Phelps' plan.

"What Phelps is doing is a reprehensible thing, to take a funeral and turn it into a photo op for his hate cause," Fischer said.

"We hope everyone will ignore Phelps' group."

In 2003, Phelps demanded that he be allowed to erect an anti-gay monument in a Boise public park. To avoid a lawsuit from his group, city officials voted in 2004 that a Ten Commandments monument be moved out of the park.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ahole; disgusting; freak; fredphelps; idaho; jerk; nutjob; phelps; religionofpeace
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To: BikerNYC

This is just a small example of this guy's mental defectiveness. I'm surprised he's got any followers at all in his church.


21 posted on 06/15/2005 6:40:43 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Hatman

You'd need an army to pull me off this guys pummelled corpse he showed up at my sons funeral....


22 posted on 06/15/2005 6:41:24 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Hatman
A flier on the Web site of Pastor Fred Phelps' Westboro Baptist Church. . .

Which consists of about 10 people - all members of Phelps immediate family.

23 posted on 06/15/2005 6:41:36 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Hatman
This guy (Phelps) is sick.
24 posted on 06/15/2005 6:41:36 AM PDT by vetvetdoug (Shiloh, Corinth, Iuka, Brices Crossroads, Harrisburg, Britton Lane, Holly Springs, Hatchie Bridge,)
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To: Hatman

Perhaps they should do the '21 gun salute' while pointing the weapons at Mr. Phelps and crew.


25 posted on 06/15/2005 6:42:35 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Hatman
RIP....


26 posted on 06/15/2005 6:43:13 AM PDT by socal_parrot (Tina Delgado is alive! ALIVE!)
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To: linkinpunk
"Is he claiming this soldier is responsible for the bombing at his "church"?"

You don't get it because you are a normal, rational, and sane human being.

I only got it because I supervise a truly deranged person, and that experience has given me great insight into the minds of people like Phelps.

Phelps is saying that God killed this US Soldier because someone bombed Phelps' church in Kansas.

The "logic" goes like this:

Some bombs Phelps' church.

That makes God mad. (Because God is on Phelps' side)

The US Government was somehow behind the bombing, or the US Government failed to aggressively pursue and identify, and arrest, the bomber.

So, God avenges the bombing by killing a US Soldier.

See?

If you are deranged (and/or if you have a very warped theology), this makes perfect sense.

27 posted on 06/15/2005 6:43:30 AM PDT by chs68
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To: robowombat
"One wonders if the Rev Fred is on Soro's payroll. He is the perfect provocateur that the media love to profile in order to smear all evangelicals as being deranged fanatics."

I was thinking EXACTLY the same thing!!

Everytime I see garbage from one of those so-called human rights groups he funds in Russia or anywhere for that matter.... I JUST know that Soros is up to something EVIL!!

28 posted on 06/15/2005 6:44:30 AM PDT by Lion in Winter (Getting old is NOT for sissies.... trust me, I know!)
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To: BikerNYC
Don't insult carnies like that.

Carnies frighten me. Very small hands. Smell like cabbage, you know.

29 posted on 06/15/2005 6:47:08 AM PDT by TheBigB (Why yes, I -do- rock! Thanks for noticing!)
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To: Hatman
In 2003, Phelps demanded that he be allowed to erect an anti-gay monument in a Boise public park. To avoid a lawsuit from his group, city officials voted in 2004 that a Ten Commandments monument be moved out of the park.

Any "preacher" that demands a Ten Commandments monument be moved is already a few fries short of a Happy Meal. I hope that, should he decide to turn out for a military funeral, some people kindly and gently speak to him about the error of his ways. I'm thinking of some kind and gentle Airborne-style negotiation tactics...
30 posted on 06/15/2005 6:49:46 AM PDT by faloi
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To: Hatman

Phelp's and his family form a small cult. Not surprisingly, they document all threats, insults, etc. they receive while protesting, and attempt to press charges against people that stand up to them.


31 posted on 06/15/2005 6:50:18 AM PDT by justin_mjn
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To: Hatman
Sad testimony of so called "Christian" extremism


32 posted on 06/15/2005 6:51:38 AM PDT by AgThorn (Bush is my president, but he needs to protect our borders. FIRST, before any talk of "Amnesty.")
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To: Hatman

If I lived in the area, I would be happy to join a mob that descended on Phelps and his supporters and beat the cr*p out of him.


33 posted on 06/15/2005 6:53:24 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Hatman

Someone needs to give Fred Phillips a tuneup.


34 posted on 06/15/2005 6:53:31 AM PDT by sport
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To: AgThorn

He's wearing a Tony Gonzales jersey, NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!


35 posted on 06/15/2005 6:55:32 AM PDT by Skooz (Perverts used to have to hang around public toilets. Now, they run our schools - Travis McGee)
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To: Lion in Winter
"One wonders if the Rev Fred is on Soro's payroll. He is the perfect provocateur that the media love to profile in order to smear all evangelicals as being deranged fanatics."

I too was wondering if Phelps is a left wing mole. Phelps supported Al Gore for President in 1988. It seems strange that someone who used to be a liberal would engage in extreme gay bashing.

Most conservatives, if not all conservatives, have repudiated and denounced Phelps a long time ago.
36 posted on 06/15/2005 6:57:07 AM PDT by Ticonderoga34
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To: Hatman
"While we respect Mr. Phelps' right to protest, we would hope that he would respect the family and friends of this young person by not disrupting the memorial," Sobba said.

Phred Phelps have resepect for someone other than himself? Hell will freeze over first.

37 posted on 06/15/2005 6:59:51 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Hatman
"Phelps said the fact that French led an all-American life gives him all the more reason to picket her final public tribute."

This man displays amazingly loose associations. Usually a sign of some level of Schizophrenia.

But someone, please beat his a** anyway.

38 posted on 06/15/2005 7:00:19 AM PDT by Sam's Army (My neighbor gives drinking a bad name)
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To: Hatman
Hey Fred, the Mullahs are a little short on staff right now. I'm sure Islam could find room for a like minded
loony preacher like you.
39 posted on 06/15/2005 7:01:44 AM PDT by Apercu ("Res ipsa loquitor")
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To: Lion in Winter; robowombat
One wonders if the Rev Fred is on Soro's payroll. He is the perfect provocateur that the media love to profile in order to smear all evangelicals as being deranged fanatics.

Nah. Phelps was pulling this sick crap long before Soros got into politics.

40 posted on 06/15/2005 7:02:30 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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