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[freepatriot32]

June 14th, 2005

Dear ******

We have important news to share with you to keep 50 caliber sniper rifles out of the hands of terrorists.

Congressman James P. Moran (D-VA), author of the 50 Caliber Sniper Rifle Reduction Act, will be offering an amendment this afternoon during House consideration of the Science, State, Justice and Commerce (SSJC) Appropriations bill (HR 2862) that would prohibit the exportation of the 50 Caliber Sniper Rifle.

Congressman Moran wrote the following letter to his House colleagues today about this important homeland security public policy measure:

"Capable of inflicting a devastatingly accurate impact from well over a mile away, the U.S. Army handbook on urban combat states that 50 caliber sniper rifles are intended for use as anti-materiel weapons, designed to attack bulk fuel tanks and other high-value targets from a distance, using "their ability to shoot through all but the heaviest shielding material.

"These weapons are a serious threat for use against civil aviation, hazardous cargo transport vehicles and rail cars carrying hazardous materials such as chlorine gas.

"The 50 Caliber is a favorite weapon of war lords, drug cartels and terrorists due to its unparalleled potential for damage. It has even been reported that al Qaeda, the Irish Republican Army and the Kosovo Liberation Army have purchased a number of these guns in the U.S. in recent years and shipped them overseas."

We'll continue to keep you informed about public policy options relating to reducing the risks of .50 caliber terror.

Address postal inquiries to: Freedom States Alliance PO Box 618354 Chicago, IL 60661

[tcostell]

It's certianly killed more than my .50 Caliber ( a Hawken which I had out to the range this weekend)

[blau993]

Please use FReeper Spell Check. The correct spelling of the Congressman's name is MorOn. Traditions must be observed.

[Nebr FAL owner]

"I think that someone ought to introduce the Congressman MoranOught To Stop Molesting Kids Act" I really like how your mind works. Crying shame it will never happen .

[WmDonovan]

"The 50 Caliber is a favorite weapon of war lords, drug cartels and terrorists due to its unparalleled potential for damage. It has even been reported that al Qaeda, the Irish Republican Army and the Kosovo Liberation Army have purchased a number of these guns in the U.S. in recent years and shipped them overseas."

Any evidence to back that up? A 'favorite weapon' that has exactly how many recorded incidents of being used by the forces of evil? They are trying to say that groups that can get their hands on RPG's and crew serviced machine guns are more interested in semi-auto or bolt action rifles purchased at Carls Gun-o-rama in Boise?

To snipe from a mile away requires significant training (no, one doesn't just put the cross hairs on the target--only in Hollywood does that work), and any government capable of providing such training has access to such arms already.

'...unparalled potential for damage'? A pipe bomb would do more damage. Or an RPG. Or a mortar. Or one of those Mohammedan suicide vests that blow up.

'It has even been reported' by who? The writer's imaginary friend? I didn't think that it was easy to export arms out of the US with out a lot of paper work. I'm sure that, say, N. Korea or China would never, ever, sell similar arms to any such group. The writer is saying that since there is no evidence of misuse here, maybe there could be undocumented misuse elsewhere? Talk about grasping at straws.

If terrorists ever get their hands on such a rifle it will be because some politician or journalist gave it to them out of exasperation: "Here, here is the stupid rifle...now go shoot something so that we can ban them."

If 50 BMG were to be banned it would be trivial for a wild-cat hand loader to make an almost identical cartridge (e.g., 51 or 49 caliber). So, the gun grabbers must plan on saying that any rifle capable of 'sniping' is to be banned...and any rifle not would therefore be 'unsuitable for sport purposes.'

[MarkL]

IIRC, the link to Al Queda is that the US government actually supplied some of these rifles to the "Mujahdeen" in Afgahnistan while they were fighting the Soviet army. Of course, Al Aqueda's roots are in the Mujahdeen, so now they've got the rifles.

But leave it to the anti-gunners to leave that part out... And the fact that these have never been used against us. I wonder if they're also going to mention the Stinger missiles that Al Queda are also believed to have: After all, they got them in the same way.

Mark

[longfellow]

Doctors:
(A) The number of doctors in the U.S. is 700,000
(B) Accidental deaths caused by physicians per year are 120,000
(C) Accidental deaths per physician is 17.14% (Statistics courtesy of the U.S.Dept of Health & Human Services )

Guns:
(A) The number of gun owners in the U.S. is
80,000,000 (yes that's 80 million)
(B) The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is
1,500
(C) The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is
0.001875% (Statistics courtesy of the FBI )

So statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.

FACT: NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN, BUT ALMOST EVERYONE HAS AT LEAST ONE DOCTOR.

Please alert your friends to this alarming threat. We must ban doctors before this gets completely out of hand!!! Remember, guns don't kill people, doctors do.

NOTE:  Out of concern for public welfare, I have withheld statistics on lawyers for fear the shock would cause people to panic and seek medical attention.

[King Prout]

I have no doubt that surplus or other Browning M2 "fifties" have fallen into the hands of scum. having been in active use for around 75 years, this is inevitable.

I somehow doubt scum have purchased semiauto or bolt-action 50cal target rifles.

[zencat]

I like .50 cal gals!

[King Prout]

GREAT post.

my mother, a physician and gunner, will find it a hoot!

[Pylot]

Well with political assisinations occuring on a daily basis in the US from these dispicable weapons it is high time someone did something to put a stop to the carnage.

Another example of incrementalism in action.

[King Prout]

that's a .30 cal MG

[theBuckwheat]

>>unparalled potential for damage'? A pipe bomb would do more damage.<<

Or a few boxcutters.

[milbuf]

the weapon with the two girs is indeed a 50Cal on tripod mount. have one in our museum.

[mountainlyons]

I think the holywood movies is the only place to find 50cal crime. I suspect the 50 caliber pistol is what the riffraff have that Mr moran refers to. I shot expert in the military and always wanted to shoot some matches. I can now afford something to shoot the 1000 yard matches. I can not see so well not but I am going to do it. I know a guy that took 6th in a NRA match and it sounds like fun.

[King Prout]

I'd swear that's a .30
hold on.

[King Prout]

Unless that chick's thumb is over one inch thick, that ain't no fifty-cal MG, pard.

[Fido969]

No one has ever been killed with a .50 cal in the US, (unless there is an incident where the police used one.)

Ted Kennedy's car killed Mary Jo Kopechne .

Killed by .50cal = 0
Killed by Teddy = 1

It's just not a gun that lends itself to criminal activity. This is a solution in search of a problem.

Let's outlaw what IS dangerous - rather than what the liberal birdbrains say MIGHT be dangerous.

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From: http://dantalley.com/politics/teddy.html

... left Miss Kopechne behind to die in the waters underneath the Edgartown Bridge in July 1969, after a night of drinking and partying with the young blonde campaign worker.

But most Americans under 40 have never heard that story, or details of how Kennedy swam to safety, then tried to get his cousin Joe Garghan to say he was behind the wheel.

Those young voters don't know how Miss Kopechne, trapped inside Kennedy's Oldsmobile, gasped for air until she finally died, while the Democrats' leading Iraq war critic rushed back to his compound to formulate the best alibi he could think of.

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[John Filson]

Molon Labe (come and get them)

Indeed, come and get them.

“Go and tell the Spartans, stranger passing by, That here, obedient to their laws, we lie.

"In 480 B.C. the forces of the Persian Empire under King Xerxes, numbering according to Herodotus two million men, bridged the Hellespont and marched in their myriads to invade and enslave Greece.

"In a desperate delaying action, a picked force of three hundred Spartans was dispatched to the pass of Thermopylae, where the confines between mountains and sea were so narrow that the Persian multitudes and their cavalry would be at least partially neutralized. Here, it was hoped, an elite force willing to sacrifice their lives could keep back, at least for a few days, the invading millions.

"Three hundred Spartans and their allies held off the invaders for seven days, until, their weapons smashed and broken from the slaughter, they fought 'with bare hands and teeth' (as recorded by Herodotus) before being at last overwhelmed.

"The Spartans and their Thespian allies died to the last man, but the standard of valor they set by their sacrifice inspired the Greeks to rally and, in that fall and spring, defeat the Persians at Salamis and Plataea and preserve the beginnings of Western democracy and freedom from perishing in the cradle.

"Two memorials remain today at Thermopylae. Upon the modern one, called the Leonidas Monument in honor of the Spartan king who fell there, is engraved his response to Xerxes' demand that the Spartans lay down their arms. Leonidas' reply was two words, Molon labe:

" 'Come and get them.' "

[John Filson]

From http://www.handloads.com/articles/molonlabe.htm

[Fido969]

I started shooting black powder, and have both a flintlock and a percussion .50 smokepoles and well as a couple of replica Navy .44 cap and ball, and a Kentuckian .45 muzzleloading flint single shot pistol.

What a lot of fun!