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Jury reaches a verdict in the Jackson case. (Update - Not Guilty ALL Counts)
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Posted on 06/13/2005 12:36:01 PM PDT by Dog

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To: txradioguy

It was pictures of little boys bend over and showing their bottoms. You didn't know this?


2,701 posted on 06/13/2005 7:15:10 PM PDT by greccogirl ("Freedom belongs to those who are willing to sacrifice the most for it")
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To: Richard Axtell

Those who believe Michael Jackson does NOT have a problem with his attraction to little boys are in serious denial.
When he paid millions to the last boy's family, I thought he MIGHT be a pedophile.
When he gave the damning interview saying he liked to let little boys sleep with him I thought he was MOST LIKELY a pedophile.
When another boy comes forward and says he was molested by MJ, I knew in my heart he MOST CERTAINLY WAS a pedophile.


2,702 posted on 06/13/2005 7:15:28 PM PDT by antceecee (if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.....)
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To: garbanzo; tuffydoodle
If this is the book I think it is, it's been around for awhile. The photos are all black and white, and rather romanticized.

It was not that long ago that nudity in boys was considered cute and a bit nostalgic. The summer camp that my son attended had a collection of old photo albums from the early days of the camp, and in some of them the boys were skinny dipping. Add to that the many excellent paintings of boys and men bathing from the 19th and early 20th centuries, and there is an argument to be made that many do NOT view this as sexualized.

Sure, if it's the same book, I knew an old queen that had a copy , but on the other hand I knew a married couple that were art photographers that had a copy too. I find it a bit too funky for my taste (not to mention too "posed"), but on the other hand this same married couple had a lovely and tasteful B&W photograph of their daughter, about four years old, climbing out of a bank of ferns with a seraphic smile on her face and (except for a crown of flowers) as naked as a jaybird.

If that (and all the other shots that were on the same roll of film but not selected) were introduced in evidence somewhere, would that be "proof" of anything?

2,703 posted on 06/13/2005 7:15:37 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: hershey

Sadly, this is nothing beyond what I expected. After the travesty of OJ Simpson, nothing surprises me. I'm actually shocked Peterson got found guilty.


2,704 posted on 06/13/2005 7:16:16 PM PDT by greccogirl ("Freedom belongs to those who are willing to sacrifice the most for it")
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To: shellshocked
Not all together true, ss.

Michael Jackson has admitted on camera he sleeps with young boys. He's even paid hush money, but continued to sleep with boys even after that.

Some things we can conclude for ourselves, without the media.

sw

2,705 posted on 06/13/2005 7:16:36 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: hineybona; shellshocked

My error, ss. Previous rant should have gone to hineybona...my bad.


2,706 posted on 06/13/2005 7:19:14 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Happygal
Anyone else think Teri Hatcher could play Jackson in the mini-series?

I was thinking of Quasimodo.

2,707 posted on 06/13/2005 7:19:23 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Delenda est Liberalism!)
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To: tuffydoodle

I didn't know what to expect, but I guess I didn't expect 100% either direction.


2,708 posted on 06/13/2005 7:19:43 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: shellshocked

And OJ didn't kill his wife, either. They had MASSIVE amounts of evidence there and it was ignored.


2,709 posted on 06/13/2005 7:20:15 PM PDT by greccogirl ("Freedom belongs to those who are willing to sacrifice the most for it")
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To: AnAmericanMother

I think the book they are talking about, which is out of print, crosses the line. Naked little boys bent over with their bottoms to the camera? And these aren't little bitty boys, they looked preteen to me in the pics someone posted.

I think, in this day and age, having any questionable pics of naked children is asking for trouble.

I don't think the book, by itself, proves anything. It's a combination of things makes me think MJ is guilty.


2,710 posted on 06/13/2005 7:20:50 PM PDT by tuffydoodle
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To: greccogirl

It's a different case... comparisons are more distraction than benefit.


2,711 posted on 06/13/2005 7:20:58 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: tuffydoodle

Yes. Mom was a jerk, and the jury didn't like her, so the victim, once again, gets the shaft.


2,712 posted on 06/13/2005 7:22:43 PM PDT by greccogirl ("Freedom belongs to those who are willing to sacrifice the most for it")
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To: greccogirl; HairOfTheDog

I'm not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure that any evidence in the OJ case wouldn't have been admissable in the Jackson case. I might be wrong, but I don't think so.


2,713 posted on 06/13/2005 7:22:53 PM PDT by Ramius
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To: shellshocked
What he did say was that they slept in the same room, as in a slumber party.

No, he said they slept in the same BED.
Please.

2,714 posted on 06/13/2005 7:23:44 PM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: greccogirl

Well... the long and short of it is that the Prosecutor didn't make a convincing case.


2,715 posted on 06/13/2005 7:24:48 PM PDT by Ramius
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To: Ramius

Heh... there were no gloves in this trial. ;~D


2,716 posted on 06/13/2005 7:24:55 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
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2,717 posted on 06/13/2005 7:26:16 PM PDT by Enterprise (Coming soon from Newsweek: "Fallujah - we had to destroy it in order to save it.")
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To: HairOfTheDog

There were gloves, just not the kind you put on your hands....:)


2,718 posted on 06/13/2005 7:26:52 PM PDT by tuffydoodle
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To: HairOfTheDog
I don't think anybody will disagree that ol' Michael is as weird as they get . . . and that a lot of his weirdness revolves around narcissism, grandiosity, and refusal to grow up. Pedophilia would sure fit into that repulsive mix.

But you can't convict even a certifiable weirdo on general principles. You have to convict him of the acts charged, with THIS complaining witness. The oddball behavior, previous settlements, all the rest of it -- that's smoke for sure indicating a fire somewhere, but not necessarily here.

I think the prosecutor went in overconfident and relying on innuendo and general reputation to bolster his case.

But the judge charges the jury that they can NOT convict on reputation, or on acts not charged. Even if other acts, or porn, or that bizarre painting, came into evidence, the judge would charge the jury that Jackson was on trial for the particular charges in the indictment and no others, and that they should consider the evidence of other acts only for the limited purpose allowed (usually identity, pattern and practice, intent, etc.)

Which means that, if the jury felt proof of the acts in the indictment was insufficient, they were instructed to ignore the rest of the stuff -- which sounds unjust when you are just convinced of the guy's guilt, but that's what the jury's there to determine, not if Jackson is a weirdo and has bad taste in art.

2,719 posted on 06/13/2005 7:27:12 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Agreed...


2,720 posted on 06/13/2005 7:30:08 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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