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A North American Community Approach to Security
Council on Foreign Relations ^ | June 9, 2005 | Dr. Robert A. Pastor

Posted on 06/13/2005 11:48:46 AM PDT by Travis McGee

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To: Travis McGee

this was the "last straw" for the signers of the Declaration of Independence:

"He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation."


so maybe it will be again. God help us....


61 posted on 06/14/2005 9:16:09 AM PDT by sdpatriot (remember waco and ruby ridge)
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To: ZULU

and the gazillions of hired gvt workers and the rules and regs that they create and enforce. all are liberal (socialist) educated teet suckers who see gvt as the alpha and omega, all powerful and always right. you can hardly flush a toilet without one of these wanting to issue a permit. these infest the smallest of local gvt all the way to the top. we are no longer a gvt of the people - meaning those we elect. we are a gvt of these agencies and beauracracies who answer to no one.


62 posted on 06/14/2005 9:24:01 AM PDT by sdpatriot (remember waco and ruby ridge)
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To: Travis McGee

It seems our masters don't intend to make that mistake.

But from the general indifference here, it wouldn't matter if they did.


63 posted on 06/14/2005 9:24:32 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: sdpatriot
Increasingly we are losing our Republic to a new bureaucratic technocracy, backed by non-elected tyrants in black robes.
64 posted on 06/14/2005 9:45:03 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: sdpatriot
all we have to do is look at the results of the newest FR opinion poll (Patriot Act) to see the majority of members and posters here are NOT conservatives

I couldn't believe the results of that "poll".

65 posted on 06/14/2005 12:13:18 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: hedgetrimmer

You might be interested in this thread


66 posted on 06/14/2005 12:54:49 PM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: antisocial

Yes I am. Thanks.


67 posted on 06/14/2005 1:50:53 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: sdpatriot
North American Integration & Development Center
Uses University of California resources, is funded by US citizens.
68 posted on 06/14/2005 2:01:00 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer
Towards a Strategic Integration of North America
69 posted on 06/14/2005 2:13:43 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Travis McGee
Ultimately, however, it is more symptom than cause: the way to reduce illegal immigration is to make Mexico's economy grow faster than that of the U.S.

Oh, I see. So that's how it's done.

70 posted on 06/14/2005 3:21:49 PM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

We'll never get a national referendum on it. It will be passed through Congress like rancid fat through a goose.


71 posted on 06/14/2005 3:42:20 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Towed_Jumper
"I have no desire to ever step foot in Mexico again.

You won't need to....they are all coming here.

72 posted on 06/14/2005 4:52:50 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: Travis McGee
Got here by accident following a link from another thread(unrelated I might add). The lack of interest in this thread can likely be attributed to the length of the piece itself. Maybe an executive summary would have drawn more attention.

In any case, there are numerous items this globalist cited to encourage us to abandon our country and our constitution, but this one seems as blatant a lie as any:

The U.S., Mexican, and Canadian governments remain zealous defenders of an outdated conception of sovereignty even though their citizens are ready for a new approach. Each nation's leadership has stressed differences rather than common interests. North America needs leaders who can articulate and pursue a broader vision.

Fact of the matter is, if anything, it's turned inside out. But what the hey, the CFR puppetmasters' and their minions' ends justify the means right? FWIW, I actually read most of the piece and for the life of me, I couldn't find any justification(that stood out at least) for advocating the "United States of North America". But I did read it in a hurry.

I've even considered some what ifs, like, what if the United States of North Ameirca" were to adopt a constitution essentially the same as our own. Would that make a difference? Then I thought what the hell, we aren't operating under our constitution now, so no dice. We have already abdicated our individual sovereignty to a centralized government monster. Question is, can we recover it?

FGS

73 posted on 06/14/2005 9:31:52 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: sdpatriot
Concurring bump. Here is the money passage:

Instead of creating new obstacles at the border, we should find ways to ease traffic and harmonize safety and transportation regulations. As a May 2000 report by a member of Canada's Parliament concluded, "Crossing the border has actually gotten more difficult ... While continental trade has skyrocketed, the physical infrastructure enabling the movement of these goods has not." The bureaucratic barriers to cross-border business impede as much as the infrastructural problems. There are 64 different sets of safety regulations in North America, 51 in the United States.

There it is. The money boys/power junkies are making their move. They're all done with the United States of America; it's time to move on to better things.

74 posted on 06/15/2005 2:45:50 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: ForGod'sSake
Concurring bump. It's showdown time.
75 posted on 06/15/2005 2:47:39 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: lentulusgracchus
It's showdown time.

Fast approaching.

If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace - Thomas Paine

Will our legacy be that we were unwilling to confront evil in our lifetimes? That we lacked the courage to do the right thing for our children and grandchildren? God help us if we bequeath this evil to our posterity.

FGS

76 posted on 06/15/2005 8:16:55 AM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: MileHi; Travis McGee

"OK, Travis. What shall we do? The ballot box continues to get us more of the same. In my mind the legislative and executive branches should all be held to account for failing to execute their duties under the Constitution, U.S. Constitution, Article 4 Section 4:
"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion;"

And the judicial should be told to sit down and shut up until we get back to you.

Won't happen so I don't know how to proceed."


The way I see it, if the federal government will not fulfill its Constitutional mandate, it is up to the Governor of the several states to do so. That means that we must compel Arnold Schwarzenegger of California, along with the AZ, NM, and TX Governors to "BUILD THAT FENCE" that Travis has been showing us photos of. People, it is "we the people" who have the power in our form of government. Now we must use it. Our elected representatives are our "SERVANTS" not our "LORDS" and we must show them this.

I am by no means a Constitutional authority, but the way I read it the States do have the duty and responsibility to pick up the slack left by our federal government's inaction.


77 posted on 06/15/2005 10:55:42 AM PDT by livefreeCA
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To: TheLion

"You won't need to....they are all coming here."

Lion, You've got that right -they're already here. I live in Arizona and the process of what I call "Mexification" is far developed...bilingual signs everywhere, day laborers standing on street corners, daily news of Pablo shooting Raoul in drug deals gone bad, Mexican flags flying from low-rider cars, etc...

Arizona has already been breached...probably time to fall back to Colorado and reorganize a new defensive line.


78 posted on 06/15/2005 12:25:03 PM PDT by Towed_Jumper
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To: Travis McGee

Did anyone in D.C. ask Americans if they wanted open borders and a blatant giveaway of US sovereignty? No. This is illegal.


80 posted on 06/20/2005 2:39:23 AM PDT by hershey
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