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FR Poll Thread: "The Patriot Act Should be..."
Free Republic ^ | 6-13-2005 | DTogo

Posted on 06/13/2005 10:21:02 AM PDT by DTogo

As recently suggested, here's a thread to allow FReepers to post (if they want to) how they voted on this poll, why, etc. Let's keep it civil! :)


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Free Republic; Government; Miscellaneous; War on Terror; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: freerepublic; opinion; patriotact; poll
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To: faq
The United States Congress also has the power to issue subpoenas and can punish individuals who fail to comply by contempt of Congress, which is similar to contempt of court.

Have you already forgotten that little bald-headed ex-probate Judge down Florida way?

281 posted on 06/14/2005 11:20:10 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: phoenix_004
> If you are a true patriot, you should put your country first for a change, rather than putting your own rights on top of everything else!!!!

That line could have been barked by all the tyrants of history. Rather, I'm an >American<. I believe in the OLD American system of government. Not this pansy-assed EuroVersion where we get attacked and fold.

Believe it or not, America has faced much more perilous enemies and didn't see the need destroy the greatest political document devised by man.

There is only ONE way America can be defeated - from within, by ourselves. I will never choose that option.
282 posted on 06/14/2005 11:20:56 AM PDT by Rate_Determining_Step (US Military - Draining the Swamp of Terrorism since 2001!)
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To: All
Sec. 102. Sense of Congress condemning discrimination against Arab and Muslim Americans.

Why is this little diddy in the Patriot Act?

283 posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:31 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown

Why is there something in the UN reform act of 2005 that declares rebellion against any government an international crime?


284 posted on 06/14/2005 11:27:42 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: All
TITLE IV--PROTECTING THE BORDER Subtitle A--Protecting the Northern Border

I looked and didn't see anything concerning our Southern Borders. If I missed it, could someone please point out my error.

285 posted on 06/14/2005 11:30:31 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

Because the tendency is always for the powerful to protect each other, especially against the lumpenproletariet (that's us).


286 posted on 06/14/2005 11:31:42 AM PDT by PaRebel (Self Defense: an unalienable right!)
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To: PaRebel

Perhaps they have a bigger, more insidious plan?

http://www.cfr.org/pub7914/press_release/trinational_call_for_a_north_american_economic_and_security_community_by_2010.php

http://www.cfr.org/pub8104/press_release/task_force_urges_measures_to_strengthen_north_american_competitiveness_expand_trade_ensure_border_security.php

It's all coming together.


287 posted on 06/14/2005 11:33:24 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Why is there something in the UN reform act of 2005 that declares rebellion against any government an international crime?

If they can slip it in, (the un) they will. Closer and closer to the One World Order we ride.

288 posted on 06/14/2005 11:33:45 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Checked out your links.

My poor grandchildren.

289 posted on 06/14/2005 11:37:48 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown

They are pplanning to dissolve the borders and start with the North American Community. (See links above)

If that treason goes well, then its on to the Great Hemispheric Guatemala.(FTAA)

If Americans resist, our military is overseas, but the UN will declare us international criminals.

Who knows what happens next, but Mexican army and police would be close by. Canadian too.

Sounds like the Old Soviet method, bring troops from Georgia to shoot the Belarus.


290 posted on 06/14/2005 11:38:46 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: pbrown

Grandchildren?

We're talking 2010.

If you don't have grandchildren now, you probably won't.


291 posted on 06/14/2005 11:39:52 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

Sorry, that came out sounding harsh.

I know how you feel.

I don't have any yet, and wonder what kind of world will beleft for them, if they come.


292 posted on 06/14/2005 11:41:33 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: All
(4) When American citizens commit acts of violence against those who are, or are perceived to be, of Arab or Muslim descent, they should be punished to the full extent of the law.

Was this added in the Patriot Act, for their protection when our next 9-11 happens?

293 posted on 06/14/2005 11:43:04 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: faq
The United States Congress also has the power to issue subpoenas and can punish individuals who fail to comply by contempt of Congress, which is similar to contempt of court.

Well, Congress certainly likes to think it does, anyway. But there's no support for that anywhere in the Constitution.

294 posted on 06/14/2005 11:46:06 AM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Who knows what happens next, but Mexican army and police would be close by. Canadian too.

Then I say, let the games begin. There are millions of American households like mine who have watched events rolling toward us at greater and greater speed. We haven't been just sitting on our duffs, or typing on our keyboards.

Canadian military, now I'm scared.

If Americans resist, our military is overseas, but the UN will declare us international criminals.

Do you really think the UN will declare millions of seething, gun-toteing Americans as criminals? The wrath that would unleash...

295 posted on 06/14/2005 11:50:57 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: loborojo
Permanent. If you are not doing anything wrong, then you have nothing to worry about.

Same as tapping your phone, reading your mail, bugging your house. Following you around.

296 posted on 06/14/2005 11:52:48 AM PDT by Protagoras (I’ve had all I can stands and I can’t stands no more.....Popeye)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
It wasn't harsh...it was the truth.

I have 9 living grandchildren.

297 posted on 06/14/2005 11:53:32 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown

Unfortunately, I doubt the sheeple will stir en masse, even for that.

Can't get much out of the vast realm of FReeperdom. Too busy swooning over pics of their god on the Day In The Life threads.

Nevertheless, I stand.


298 posted on 06/14/2005 12:00:41 PM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: pbrown

May they grow fast and strong.


299 posted on 06/14/2005 12:01:29 PM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Nevertheless, I stand.

But you don't stand alone.

300 posted on 06/14/2005 12:11:09 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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