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Scouts granted right to dob-dob for Allah (Great Britain)
Times of London ^ | 6/12/05 | Colin Gray and Camillo Fracassini

Posted on 06/12/2005 12:44:09 PM PDT by wagglebee

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The changes have horrified some prominent former Scouts. Stephen Pound, the Labour MP and chairman of the all-party parliamentary Scout group, called the changes “profoundly retrograde, uncalled for and potentially extremely divisive”.

Then why do you keep allowing the jihadists into your country?

1 posted on 06/12/2005 12:44:09 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee
The collapse of the West continues.
2 posted on 06/12/2005 12:46:01 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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On the other hand, by doing this, the politically correct crowd has unknowingly acknowledged that the Muslim's Allah IS NOT just another name for God, so the left can quit with all of their garbage about Islam worshipping the God of Judeo-Christian tradition.
3 posted on 06/12/2005 12:47:54 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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"the politically correct crowd has unknowingly acknowledged that the Muslim's Allah IS NOT just another name for God,

Good logic.

4 posted on 06/12/2005 12:52:55 PM PDT by NetValue (No enemy has inflicted as much damage on America as liberals.)
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... do your duty to allah and the jihad...

bet me?

5 posted on 06/12/2005 12:53:58 PM PDT by papertyger (Islam is unique among religions in having developed doctrine mandating violence against unbelievers.)
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Then why do you keep allowing the jihadists into your country?

Beats the sh** out of me - and I live here.

Politically, I expect the answer lies somewhere in the same area as "Why do you guys allow 50 million illegal Mexicans into the USA?"

Mind you, I was rather tickled by the Muslim claim that they account for around a third of the Scouts' UK membership.
I wonder, prophet that he was, whether Mohammed foresaw Baden-Powell's penning of the Scout handbook, "Scouting For Boys"????

6 posted on 06/12/2005 12:57:34 PM PDT by Selous
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It is hoped the shift in policy will help to rid Britain the association of its reputation for being of this mainly white, middle-class and Christian organization.

There, I fixed it. I'm sure this is what they meant to say.

7 posted on 06/12/2005 12:58:19 PM PDT by Bob
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To: papertyger

"I, Gassa bin Passin, promise
to do my best,
to do my duty
to allah and the jihad,
to kill other people,
and to obey the law of the mullahs."


8 posted on 06/12/2005 12:59:54 PM PDT by Luddite Patent Counsel ("Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." - Groucho Marx)
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Politically, I expect the answer lies somewhere in the same area as "Why do you guys allow 50 million illegal Mexicans into the USA?"

Very few in the US are actually in favor allowing illegal aliens into our country.

However, the main problem with that arguement (which a lot of Europeans make) is this:
Mexicans do not come into the United States with a religious tradition which advocates the destruction of America and the barbaric murder of all of our citizens.

9 posted on 06/12/2005 1:04:28 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

Scouting is dying in England, and this is one reason why.


10 posted on 06/12/2005 1:09:27 PM PDT by bnelson44
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To: Selous
Mind you, I was rather tickled by the Muslim claim that they account for around a third of the Scouts' UK membership.

The article says Muslims account for a third of Scouts wordlwide. It claims only 1% of Britihs Scouts are Muslim.

I think what this article really reflects is that Scouting, like a lot of other traditional boys groups, is rapidly dying out in the UK and they're getting desperate enough for members that they're having to start making overtures towards minority communities in order to boost recruitment.

11 posted on 06/12/2005 1:10:06 PM PDT by moatilliatta
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Scouting is dying in England, and this is one reason why.

It's too bad..


12 posted on 06/12/2005 1:11:45 PM PDT by moog
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> the politically correct crowd has unknowingly acknowledged that the Muslim's Allah IS NOT just another name for God

Good point, and one which needs to be made over and over. Although Baden-Powell must be rolling over in his grave, the article at least presented views from both sides, rather than entirely gush forth a bunch of multicultural crap.


13 posted on 06/12/2005 1:15:29 PM PDT by cloud8
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the future of British Scouts. I surely hope not.

14 posted on 06/12/2005 1:21:52 PM PDT by Random Nonsense
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To: Random Nonsense
Here's a few more:


15 posted on 06/12/2005 1:32:39 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: BenLurkin; wagglebee
The collapse of the West continues.

At the very least, (Thanks be to the Triune God: Father, Son and Holy Spirit!) the dogma of radical inclusivism which taught that God contains all gods and all gods are the same. Such "logic" fails once the devotees of one of these gods refuse to participate and their refusal is legitimized by recognizing, permitting, and endorsing their refusal.

What a judgment on Christendom that Christians were not willing or able to have such fortitude and stand firm for the uniqueness of Him who is the Way, the Truth,and the Life!

16 posted on 06/12/2005 1:51:11 PM PDT by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised.)
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To: Luddite Patent Counsel

Think of the new merit badges they'll have to add:

Suicide Belt-weaving

HonorKilling Arts

Jihadology

Jihad Lore

Mysogyny Study

CarBomb Repairs

etc.


17 posted on 06/12/2005 2:03:49 PM PDT by zipper ("The fear of God makes heroes, the fear of man makes cowards."-- Sgt Alvin C. York)
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Bet they have some new badges:

I killed an infidel badge.

I married my first cousin when I was six badge.

I found a tree which told me where to look for the infidel badge.

I burned a bible badge.

I am sure others can come up with much better ones than these.

18 posted on 06/12/2005 2:06:44 PM PDT by highpockets
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"Why do you guys allow 50 million illegal Mexicans into the USA?"

'Cause we don't have the Atlantic Ocean and the English Channel to stop them....LOL


19 posted on 06/12/2005 2:07:08 PM PDT by commonasdirt (Reading DU so you won't hafta)
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To: wagglebee; quidnunc

<< The changes have horrified some prominent former Scouts. Stephen Pound, the Labour MP and chairman of the all-party parliamentary Scout group, called the changes “profoundly retrograde, uncalled for and potentially extremely divisive”.

Then why do you keep allowing the jihadists into your country? >>

Once-great [Or so they keep on insisting] britain is, to borrow from once-great-british "English," rooted.

The brits execrable political elite has sewed "multi-culturalism's" tyrannical wind -- and the Euro-peons' -- whose whirlwinds fast approache!

BUMPping


20 posted on 06/12/2005 4:29:32 PM PDT by Brian Allen (I fly and need therefore envy no Earth Person! -- Per Ardua ad Astra!)
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