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New Yorkers lose tax derby
Press Republican ^ | 6/11/05 | staff

Posted on 06/12/2005 7:05:22 AM PDT by qam1

Congratulations, New Yorkers: You now have the distinction of officially being the highest-taxed group in the nation.

According to an annual publication of The Taxpayers Network, www.taxpayersnetwork.org in Cedarville, Wisc., New York — merely third in 2002 — has ascended to first place in 2004 in the category of state and local tax burden as percent of income.

On the average, New Yorkers pay 12.9 percent of their income to state and local taxes. In 2002, they paid 12.3 percent and were surpassed by Washington, D.C., and Maine.

Both Washington and Maine fell in the rankings, both because their respective percentages fell and because New York’s rose.

Why has New York reached the pinnacle?

Part of it must be the generous benefits New York state accords to Medicaid recipients. This state’s are said to be the most comprehensive of any, meaning that more maladies and conditions are covered than anyplace else.

New York is a great place to live if you need government assistance. If you’re among those helping to pay for it, though, it is the worst, and The Taxpayers Network has documented that it is so.

This hurts in two ways.

First, if you are a resident, you are keeping less of your pay than people in other states. This obviously is not a piece of information destined to promote peace of mind.

And second, if you are counting on business and industry migrating to your state to ease your tax burden, you are probably out of luck, since taxes are one factor such prospective migrants examine in trying to decide where to settle and they aren’t likely to choose a place where the government usurps so much of one’s income.

So economic-development specialists in New York state are swimming upstream. The northeastern corner of the state is particularly up against it, as it is isolated and subject to notorious weather.

The economic developers in this region deserve immense credit for accomplishing what they have. They have parlayed few advantages into impressive gains. Among those advantages are proximity to Canada and breathtaking scenery.

In trying to offset an extremely gloomy tax picture, they may not sound like much, but our advocates are apparently very clever.

We are now learning that, in addition to already high taxes, our property is increasing dramatically in value. While that sounds like a fortunate bit of news, it actually compounds our tax problems, since assessed value is a component of the tax formula.

In trying to find a way out of this paralyzing predicament, our trust must rest with our state representatives. It is up to them to find or invent ways to deliver services less expensively.

Other states are doing it, and they don’t seize 12.9 percent of constituents’ income. That is a dispiriting and indicting statistic.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: escapefromnewyork; newyork; taxes
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To: Gone_Postal

What does Hillary have to do with State and Local taxes?


21 posted on 06/12/2005 7:42:28 AM PDT by wtc911 ("I would like at least to know his name.")
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To: Poser

Why are people not flocking to New Hampshire?


22 posted on 06/12/2005 7:43:26 AM PDT by wtc911 ("I would like at least to know his name.")
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To: bill1952
All I ever see is schummer, clinton, rangel.

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All of whom have nothing to do with state and local tax issues.

23 posted on 06/12/2005 7:45:16 AM PDT by wtc911 ("I would like at least to know his name.")
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To: Boris99
And, as a veteran and a fine upstanding citizen of the state of NY, you are not allowed to own a pistol.

Oh, well done. I want to live there. NOT.

Want to know what I had to do to get my VA CCW? I showed them my DD-214. Done.

Oh, and we don't register our guns, at all. Not even pistols.

24 posted on 06/12/2005 7:45:18 AM PDT by patton ("Fool," said my Muse to me, "look in thy heart, and write.")
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To: Poser

Very interesting, tell us more about the political landscape there.

Why is it blue?


25 posted on 06/12/2005 7:46:45 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: wtc911

Anyone knows that.

My point is that no one is seeing these senators and their effects on the state.

According to the NYT types, NY is the model for how the red states should be organized.


27 posted on 06/12/2005 7:53:26 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: patton

Actually you can own a pistol Upstate, for now, but the process for getting a permit is similar to getting a Top Secret clearance in the military. Have to provide references, get fingerprinted etc. Oh and of course there are several fees for filing the paperwork, getting fingerprinted, the passport style photo, etc etc... All this just to own a pistol. That isn't even concealed carry.


28 posted on 06/12/2005 7:54:40 AM PDT by Boris99
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To: gitmo

they are, and they are making those states more Democratic - North Carolina is a perfect example.


29 posted on 06/12/2005 7:55:15 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: Scooter1994

They keep trying don't they?

We just have to keep standing firm and get out every single pub to vote.

It's push come to shove, and we must never quit.


30 posted on 06/12/2005 7:55:51 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: bill1952
Are they real republicans? I mean, to the right of Hillary.

More like Hillary is to the Right of them!!!

Pataki is by far the most Liberal governor in the country. When I moved to NJ from NY I had a hard time hateing McGreevy because even he was way more Conservative than Pataki.

All I ever see is schummer, clinton, rangel.

They have nothing to do with state & local taxes; however, if they did I doubt they could do a worse job than Pataki

It is incredible that the state houses are pubs and built that state into the condition that it currently finds itself.

Out of the 35 Republican senators, not a single one of them can be considered even remotely Conservative. They all consistently vote in lockstep unison to raise taxes, increase spending & regulations

31 posted on 06/12/2005 7:56:55 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: oceanview

Agreed. I'm looking into moving to SC. Too small to be a nation and too large to be an insane asylum. I used to live there and loved it.


32 posted on 06/12/2005 7:57:46 AM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: patton

And what did PM promptly do when it moved it's headquarters from NYC back to Richmond? Endorsed marky Mark's raise of cigarette taxes form 25cents a carton to $3.00 a carton and refused to take a stand on Mimms proposed Delaware/New York style smoking ban.


with that said - a recent court ruling regarding NYS income taxes needs to be watched carefully. The ruling was that a telecommuter who lives in Tennessee but works for a NY company has to pay NY income taxes. That ruling is of major concern to me as my husband works for IBM - but never in New York. It's bad enough that Delaware is still taking a chunck of withholding from him because IBM has him "assigned" to a Dover office.....we already pay enough to DE and VA - I don't need NY adding to the problem.


33 posted on 06/12/2005 7:57:52 AM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: Boris99

Well, you guys in the Soviet New York might want to think about that, when you are sending folks to Albany.


34 posted on 06/12/2005 7:58:41 AM PDT by patton ("Fool," said my Muse to me, "look in thy heart, and write.")
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To: qam1

Being the economic capital of the United States and the World is such a burden. While the cost of living and taxes are very high this is offset by us making more money and having more opportunities. I would'nt say its the percfect place to live for everyone but 20 million still live in NY state and an easy 10million in NYC as well. Its a great place to work and make money not really the best to retire.


35 posted on 06/12/2005 8:01:36 AM PDT by SkoalBandit
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To: patton

Trust me, I try to do my part, but very few of the candidates that I vote for here seem to win. I moved back here because this is where the family is, but much more nonsense and I may have to reconsider things.


36 posted on 06/12/2005 8:03:12 AM PDT by Boris99
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To: Gabz
I fully expect NY to oneday say, since I own the place in Herkimer, I am a resident, and must pay NY income taxes.

At the same time, they will insist, since I live in VA, I am not a resident, and in no way can I qualify for a pistol permit, to carry my gun, on my own d@mn farm.

37 posted on 06/12/2005 8:04:03 AM PDT by patton ("Fool," said my Muse to me, "look in thy heart, and write.")
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To: SkoalBandit; All

Raising the Troll alert.

Look at his in forum remarks. Every one of them negative.


38 posted on 06/12/2005 8:06:51 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: bill1952
My point is that no one is seeing these senators and their effects on the state.

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Why would you suppose that, especially from the outside. Suburban and exurban NYers have zero input to Rangel's career and without the urban bloc the other two would not get elected. There is nothing we can do about the numbers. Why would you suggest that we don't know that?

About living in NY, in spite of the constant trashing by folks who in many cases have no genuine knowledge of the subject, it should be apparent to the thinking observer that the benefits out-weigh the negatives to a degree sufficient enough that intelligent, educated, family-oriented, conservative, religious people (a significant % of LI, for example) choose to raise their children here.

39 posted on 06/12/2005 8:06:59 AM PDT by wtc911 ("I would like at least to know his name.")
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To: wtc911

Maybe I'm not making myself clear.

I'm talking about your state senators that nobody outside of NY ever hears about, not your national office holders, who are all we ever see, and usually in your face, hard core libs.

As for the rest of your commentary I can see that you have exactly what you deserve.

Please stop those huge numbers of NYs from leaving and settling here.
Use your above points to educate them.


40 posted on 06/12/2005 8:13:29 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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