Posted on 06/12/2005 5:54:11 AM PDT by kellynla
With an estimated 11 million or more illegal immigrants in the United States, it's clear that existing border policies have become a joke. They too often ignore the labor needs of the economy and, well, where do we begin about the lack of enforcement? The laws against illegal immigration and hiring undocumented workers are poorly enforced, when they are enforced at all.
Past efforts to update U.S. immigration laws have taken years. The task is among the most ticklish and difficult facing Congress, with social and economic ramifications along with diplomatic and domestic security impacts.
Some weeks ago, a serious effort to tackle the immigration headache was launched by Sens. John McCain, a border state Republicans, and Ted Kennedy, a Northeast liberal. This odd duck authorship represents the need to forge a broad consensus. Indeed, McCain-Kennedy is a rational approach that holds much promise if calm heads can prevail over demagoguery.
The McCain-Kennedy bill is in synch with many of President Bush's immigration-reform ideas, which increases the likelihood of success. (Also, the word out of Washington is the president now supports concepts he once opposed, such as not requiring illegal immigrants to return home to gain legal status.)
(Excerpt) Read more at denverpost.com ...
Well a three strikes and your out law might work. May the HR people will feel the heat if they become LEGALLY responsible for hiring illegal aliens. And since small business owners are the HR person, this could be effective. Is hiring some cheap illegal labor worth you livlihood and your freedom.
I see the company that hired the colorado cop killer has decided to start checking to see if their employees are legal. Personally I want to know how much money they are giving to the victims family. I wouldn't mind seeing some prison time for the executive who decided to allow the hiring of illegal aliens.
The most effective way to jump start this would be for the victims of the illegals crimes to sue the companies. Just as Bar owners are responsible if the send a customer out plastered and they have an accident. I'm not a lawyer, but seems there may be some way to make this work. That would end this practice REALLY fast.
No shiny new laws which business and government can simply ignore when it suits them!
Fool me once shame on you, government and business! Fool me twice. . . .
And tell the corrupt government of Mexico to stay the hell out of our internal affairs! Stop meddling, you corrupt bastards! While Mexican citizens are here we make and enforce the laws. Screw Mexico's "nation beyond borders" and Fox's National Council for Mexican Communities Abroad. Screw their Mexican diaspora.
Why not put the executives in jail for a month and then make them pay the fines. They would get to know the illegals 'up close and personal' then.
amnesty
n 1: a period during which offenders are exempt from punishment 2: a warrant granting release from punishment for an offense [syn: pardon] 3: the formal act of liberating someone [syn: pardon, free pardon] v : grant a pardon to (a group of people)
Ill ask again. How does the word amnesty apply to the mckennedy bill and not the Kyl/Cornyn bill?
I don't know what they're trumpeting this for. It was Kennedy and his '65 immigration bill that created this problem in the first place!
Corporations look on fines as just another cost of doing business. Start putting some CEO's and other executives in a local JAIL, even if only for 30 days. Bet that would clean up the act.
I agree. These fines are mere pittance and not effective.
And the Kyl/Corwyn bill now being touted is yet ANOTHER amnesty. Same pig with different lipstick.
With no mention of not securing the border? Please don't waste your time and our money gentlemen!
Here's some of what we are grappling with.
Now, what solutions do you see? Do we wait while the clock ticks? Do we remain in a slumber like in the days that led up to 9-11? What change can be made that will truly secure our nation from a terrorist attack along our southern border? Do we leave hard choices for future generations? Can we ever be safe within our own country as long as the tyranny and corruption in Mexico continues?
did you catch Cheney's appearance before the Press Club today?
He says they need to do more to secure the borders and identify the illegals!!
He actually called them "illegals!" LOL
I haven't heard his remarks yet, but seeing this as only an immigration issue, in fact, presenting the problem as only an immigration issue lulls our population into a false sense of security. People need to wake up and realize such a corrupt government cannot be trusted to secure our southern regions.
"Now, what solutions do you see? "
The ideal solution to Muslim terrorism is for the Muslims to reinterpret their religion as to proscribe terrorism.
Next are the things we are doing:
Ending state support of international terrorism, hunting down and killing their leaders, cutting off their funds, promoting democracy, better human intelligence, cooperation of foreign governments, securing airplanes, searching ships, protecting municipal water supplies, protecting nuclear sites, protecting dams, bridges, schools, malls and office buildings; keeping surveillance on Muslims in the U.S. who might provide support and intelligence to terrorists, increasing our technological surveillance for nuclear material entering the country, developing closer cooperation with Mexico and Canada to keep terrorist from entering their countries or being assisted therein by corrupt officials, infiltrating Mexican and Canadian criminal organizations that might assist terrorists, modernization of Coast Guard and CBP vessels, and keeping the American citizens on alert for suspicious behavior.
Do you think we need another 9/11 in order to wake people up?
The Denver Post is a notorious open-borders rag
Oops. I sent the message prematurely. Let's try that again:
Do you think we need another 9/11 in order to wake people up? I don't.
Evidently, because Americans have given GWB and rest of the clowns in D.C. a "pass" on their failure to secure the borders, deport the illegals and fine employers who hire them.
We secure the borders in Korea, Afghanistan and Iraq but we leave our own front and back doors WIDE OPEN? you figure it out? and I thought we were at war!
But you don't hope for another 9/11, do you?
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