Natalee's body found... (false report)

[kcvl]

Per Fox News...

[I still care]

You are fortunate. Back in the 80's I had a bunch of friends visit Jamaica. One ended up dead. They hired a driver to take them home from a bar because they were drinking. He drove the car off a cliff in a rural area - no 911, no hospitals.

They dragged him up a cliff and carried him down a road for miles before they found someone to pick them up and drive them to a clinic. The nurse there took one look and said to put him on a table and just let him die. There was no way they had the resources to care for such things. He died an hour or so later. In the US, he probably would have lived.

[fish hawk]

I take it you are Catholic

[Betaille]

"Maybe they kept quiet out of fear until they were arrested just a couple days ago."

I think most likely the 2 boys thought that they were covering for their friend and avoiding any involvement... hoping it would just go away. Once they got arrested and interrogated though, they probably said "no way we're going down for this $#@!head.

[Dad yer funny]

yup , ya got that correct-a-mundo , same all around the world

[Gondring]

Or she stumbled drunk and fell... or....

[sofaman]

well said...most sensible post of the day

[saradippity]

Your post #93 says it all, except I do think she was only 17.

[NHAntiMassRedRebel]

I think these kids are going to get the book thrown at them, regardless of how well connected they are. The cost of this tragedy to Aruba's economy will be staggering if they aren't made examples of.

[LS]

It is absolutely the truth. These high school paries to foreign countries are absurd.

[JohnD9207]

This "dangerous place of bizarre culture and minimal moral law" is MUCH safer than most if not all college towns. What sane parent would let there kid go to a town where there was a murder within the past year? What sane parent would let their child go to a place where it's possible for people under 21 to drink? If a parent doesn't think those things go on in EVERY town in the US they aren't sane. This was an unfortunate isolated incident. Some of the self-righteous comments on these threads are almost unbearable.

Exactly! Can't imagine an ADULT going along and allowing these kids that much space...unless they went for the same reason...to get drunk and.....? Saying that there were mistakes made does not make her death less tragic. Thank God my daughters survived their teenage years, however I played a small part in this. When I was 18 I would have jumped at the chance to visit an island where I could drink, gamble, and chase girls but my folks would have vetoed that plan. Parents...take heed and learn from this senseless murder, before another kid is lost.

[TheOtherOne]

Well said. I agree. Having been on a 'senior' trip when I was 17 and having been to Aruba in the last 5 years, and to the particular bar in question gives me a nice perspective.

At 17 I went to Moscow and Lennigrad...during the winter! I still relish my memories of the museums, historical sites, WWII memorials...Chirstmas day at a Church in the USSR, etc.

My memory of Aruba, lot's of fun, and at Carlos and Charlie's I got the drunkest I think I have ever been.

Aruba is no more or less safe than your local city. But you send your kids there to play and party...and that is what they will do.

[Lx]

Just damn, prayers for her and her family...

[the Real fifi]

Exactly so. They may have been experimenting with drugs--she had a bad reaction and died--Who knows. Lots of 17 year olds would panic and act stupidly if that happened.

[radiohead]

Some local drifter wandered onto the campus and grabbed the first coed he could find. This happened in broad daylight. One never knows where evil lurks.

This is so true and why parents have to teach their children about the evils of the world before sending them off. At Michigan, they had to tell the kids not to let the homeless use the showers in the dorm. The kids thought they were doing a good deed, they couldn't see the possibilities of someone getting robbed or killed due to letting a stranger in their midst. I'm sure this happens at dorms across the country.

[SoVaDPJ]

"What some of us are saying however is that there are time-tested ways to avoid things like this, and if we can't point them out on FR, we can't point them out anywhere"

I understand what you're saying, and it's true that it looks like really, really poor decisions were made. But don't let's convince ourselves that all of these events can be avoided. In Baltimore we have a few young women here who were raped or killed in their dorm rooms.

We've got to raise daughters who are wary and street wise, and we have to put away violent and sociopathic animals the VERY first time they "misbehave," and not let them out. If Natalee was murdered (and there was not some type of accident, which is still possible), and one of these young men killed her, there's no way it was the first time he displayed that type of behavior.

[Kaslin]

No she was 18, one of the guys who have been arrested was only 17 however

[SoVaDPJ]

Agreed here.

[stlnative]

on TV... (it is unconfirmed info though)

[delchiante]

It just looks like she took a little college spring break preemptively. Like before she went to college..
One last time to party with her HS friends before they had to buckle down and study in College....

It could have happened to her in College, too....
It appears the girlfriends she made in High school didn't do much to protect her from herself and the evil that lurks..

Whose to say the girlfriends she met at college would have been able to do it different.

It's all sad because this was one of our brightest.... Pre Med- big plans ahead. In the career to save lives...

She makes some bad life choices on this five day trip and it cost her hers.
But her death will be a discussion point in homes in NY, FL, AL, CA.... All over. Her sad death may save naive 18 year old girls going forward.. And may save more ladies lives than she could as a doctor.

I'm guessing the remaining 123 students and chaperones have learned some lessons on their senior trip that they don't learn in a classroom..

And it appears, in our world today, it's these lessons you need to really grasp before you get out of the cocoon you call HS and your hometown..
Not just the three R's anymore...

[bonfire]

FOX confirming she's dead.