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The Uzi is a military-type assault rifle made in Israel.

Sigh.  It is my hope that, at least once before I die, I'll read a news report in which the author actually knows something about firearms & firearms nomenclature, and isn't a slack-jawed mouth-breathing idiot.

The Uzi is not an "assault rifle". An "assault rifle" is a seletive-fire weapon chambered for a moderately powered cartridge.

If the Uzi these teens had is the semi-auto only version (most likely) is is a semi-automatic firearm, and nothing more.

If it is the full-auto version, it still wouldn't be an "assault rifle". Since the Uzi is chambered for a handgun cartridge (9mm), the full-auto version is classified as a sub-machine gun.

1 posted on 06/11/2005 7:25:21 AM PDT by holymoly
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To: holymoly

Typo: seletive-fire = selective-fire


2 posted on 06/11/2005 7:26:34 AM PDT by holymoly
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Amen, might even be the mini uzi's that where popular in the 80's.

Which would put it into the pistol class.

3 posted on 06/11/2005 7:31:32 AM PDT by dts32041 (Robin Hood, stealing from the government and giving back to tax payer. Where is he today?)
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I also liked the part about them being "easily concealed". I know the Secret Service used them and concealed them under large coats but a .25 auto is easily concealed, not a submachine gun.


4 posted on 06/11/2005 7:36:57 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: holymoly
In terms of actually being "dangerous", I think my Browning HP .40S&W with hi-cap mags is more effective than the Uzi. Especially in terms of being able to conceal.

You're right though. It's certainly NOT a rifle. Even the carbine version is still too short.

The writer says that the Uzi is easy to conceal. Evidentally it's NOT that easy because the kid was actually seen with it! I've been a lot of places with a Colt Series 80 and the weapon has never been "seen". :-)
6 posted on 06/11/2005 7:39:30 AM PDT by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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Not the most accurate guns around either.


7 posted on 06/11/2005 7:39:46 AM PDT by umgud (FR, NASCAR, NRA, GOP)
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Well, look on the bright side. The only thing missing from this story is the typical media line: "Thousands of bullets could be fired in 2 seconds with the single pull of the trigger".


9 posted on 06/11/2005 7:43:00 AM PDT by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: holymoly
*This* is why I read FR.

FReepers can contribute additional facts/knowledge that help put the "journalist's" bias in perspective.

In the days before the internet (and even today, to those who still rely on the MSM as their sole news source), one might have easily taken the bait: "Assault Weapons? In the hands of children?? WE NEED MORE ANTI-GUN LEGISLATION!"

Regardless of this author's attempts to make this piece about The Gun, these punks still had no business bringing a loaded weapon to school. Summary expulsion for them.

11 posted on 06/11/2005 7:57:29 AM PDT by martin_fierro (KnockKnock/Who's there?/Control Freak. Now you say, "Control Freak Who?")
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Moreover, either it is a pistol (which can have a short barrel and be concealed as in the Secret Service) or a rifle, which must have a barrel at least 16" long, if it is not specially permitted as a short-barreled rifle.

So, the writer was wrong in that it was concealeable, wroong that is was a rifle (assault or otherwise) or failed to note that it is a NFA weapon, subjecting the possessor to 10 years in the federal pen.


14 posted on 06/11/2005 8:06:40 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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"This is a serious violation of the district code of student conduct,"

Wait a minute. The guns wer found THREE BLOCKS from the school and the school thinks they have some sort of authority over the matter?

15 posted on 06/11/2005 8:08:13 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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The Uzi is a military-type assault rifle made in Israel.

Well, they got part of it right. The UZI is made in Israel.

Because of its short barrel, it can be easily concealed.

Because of its short barrel, it is not an assault rifle. Because of its ammunition, it is not an assault rifle. Because of the fact that it was not designed to be an assault rifle, it is not an assault rifle. It is not even a rifle.

If this reporter was writing about any other subject, such ignorance would get him fired. But you don't need to actually know anything about guns to know they're the Devil's playthings, at least according to the liberal gospel.

16 posted on 06/11/2005 8:13:42 AM PDT by IronJack
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I saw the word "semi-automatic." I have a semi-automatic. IT is not an "assault rifle." In California the clip holds 10 rounds. I have to pull the trigger 10 times to get off 10 shots.


18 posted on 06/11/2005 8:28:09 AM PDT by followerofchrist
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The media can take an ordinary handgun and turn it into a full-auto sniper rifle that can shoot 1,000 rounds a second, never run out of ammunition thanks to its high-capacity "clip," and hit a person with pin-point accuracy a mile away. And of course it is "easily concealable" -- one can hide it in a pocket!

To me the real story is what were the kids doing with a handgun in the first place? Could it be, oh, I don't know, gang activity? The story does not even speculate about that even though I would think a gang arming itself and planning a "hit" would be a sensational story in itself without the morbid fantasies of a gun with demonic powers.

It was also noted that a pocket knife was found. Well, when I was in school I carried one of those Swiss Army pocket knives that had several blades and it also had a screwdriver, wire stripper, corkscrew and bottle opener. I carried it because I was a geek and the knife was useful for the electronics projects I was always building. Nowadays it would be seen as a high capacity (more than one blade) military assault knife that is also a bomb making tool (screwdriver, wire stripper) and no doubt just having a corkscrew and bottle opener is enough to make one an alcoholic, too.

19 posted on 06/11/2005 8:30:51 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell
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Where is Mom? Where is Dad?


20 posted on 06/11/2005 8:39:14 AM PDT by sageb1
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Ditto

But what is my personal pet peeve is this......

"The knife and partially loaded clip were found...
Dammit! It's not a 'clip' it's a MAGAZINE.

For any reporters that might be trolling be kindly advised: A 'clip' is used to hold the rounds so they can all be inserted into the rifles internal MAGAZINE at once (more properly they are named Stripper Clips).

The 03 Springfield uses 'clips', the M1 Garand uses 'clips' (that was the 'ping' sound after the last round was fired as the CLIP was expelled from the magazine), a 98K Mauser (and clones) uses 'clips', the Mosin Nagant also uses 'clips' to load the magazine. The only PISTOL (to my knowledge) that used 'clips' is/was the old Mauser Broomhandle.

And IIRC the only semiautomatic RIFLE that uses CLIPS is the SKS - again to load the rifle's ten round internal magazine.

Clips, clips, clips. I got their 'clips' right "here".

25 posted on 06/11/2005 9:02:45 AM PDT by Condor51 (Leftists are moral and intellectual parasites - Standing Wolf)
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The Uzi is a military-type assault rifle made in Israel.

So why did the kids also need 15 round magazines, did they explain how to use the ... what's it called ... Ooo-Zee? And why were the magazines round so small - 9mm?

D'uh..... /sarc

26 posted on 06/11/2005 9:10:32 AM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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Just DANG! That's what I get for using my first real day of summer vacation to sleep late! Everybody on this thread has made all the cool cogent arguments already, so I'll just add my two cents whenever I hear a liberal mewl about the so called assault rifle.

An ASSAULT does not indicate a physical activity. An ASSAULT under the law is verbal in nature. The physical activity is when the violence occurs. Therefore a true Assault Rifle is one that SCREAMS loudly:

YOU WHINING, COWARDLY TREASONOUS LIBERALS ARE DESTROYING THE COUNTRY AND I'M GOING TO KICK ALL YOUR A$$E$!!!! There! That's an assault!

The accompanying violence using a weapon would make the implement used (if a firearm, especially a rifle) an Aggravated BATTERY Rifle.

But then I guess the rest of the sheeple inhabiting this country would start thinking of Phasers which by the way are also covered by the Second Amendment.

28 posted on 06/11/2005 9:13:19 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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"which included a 15-round-capacity magazine loaded with five 9mm rounds,"

"This is a very dangerous weapon, and it could really do a lot of damage to several people,"

Five, anyways.

29 posted on 06/11/2005 9:16:11 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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The UZI is not easily concealed..if it had a barrel shorter
than 16" the possesser better have a BATF letter stating
the tax paid on a SBR has been paid and local LEOs approved.


32 posted on 06/11/2005 9:44:37 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Taglines often reveal a lot about the inner person...)
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