Christians Could be Sent to Jail for Praying in School - (ACLU demands incarceration for praying)

CONCERNED WOMEN FOR AMERICA.ORG ^ | JUNE 9, 2005 | EDITORS

[CHARLITE]

"Anything short of actual imprisonment would be ineffective..." -- ACLU of Louisiana

“Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.” Matthew5:10

In their latest attack on Christianity, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) has filed a motion to hold Tangipahoa school board officials in Louisiana in contempt of court, asking they be jailed for praying in schools.

The Tangipahoa school board and the ACLU of Louisiana entered into an agreement, made public in an August 27, 2004, District Court Consent Judgment, which required school officials to prohibit “invocations given prior to athletic events,” “participation and/or encouragement by school officials in pre-game and post-game prayers involving student athletes,” and “invocations by students to the student body over the school’s public address system during assemblies or at any school sponsored event.” The ACLU claims school officials have violated the agreement on multiple occasions. This motion is the fourth complaint they’ve filed against the school board.

Even though this is considered a civil matter, the ACLU has asked the court to hold school officials in criminal contempt, asking for jail time. “Their refusal to comply with the Consent Decree should and must result in their removal from society—removal for a period of time sufficient to impress upon them, and like imitators, the seriousness of the Court’s order,” reads the complaint. “Anything short of actual imprisonment would be ineffective to sending that message to these individuals.”

What? This “must result in their removal from society”? Are we talking about child molesters here? Sorry, that can’t be it; those are the kind of people the ACLU would be defending instead of trying to put in jail. The ACLU defends the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) and tries to get school officials in jail for praying --you know the real criminals.

Tragically, although I fully expect the court to reject this ridiculous request, the ACLU still moves its agenda forward with every lawsuit they bring. You see, it doesn’t really matter if they win or loose, by their own admission, what they want is to impress “like imitators” of the price to be paid for showing their faith in public. And unfortunately the courts have allowed and often helped them in this endeavor.

With their highly capricious interpretation of the First Amendment’s Establishment Clause as erecting a “wall of separation between church and state,” U.S. courts find themselves more involved in matters of religion than the framers ever intended them to be. Is there anything more intrusive than the government sending you to jail for praying, no matter where it is?

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof …” That’s all the First Amendment says. Nowhere can you find the “wall of separation” between church and state. Yet, in the name of freedom and liberty, groups like the ACLU would like to prohibit the free exercise of religion beyond a person’s private thoughts. “That’s okay, you can be a Christian, just don’t say it out loud.”

“This is another example of how the so-called ‘wall of separation’ continues to distort the meaning of the Establishment Clause, said Jan LaRue, CWA’s chief counsel. “Chief Justice Rehnquist has said: ‘It is impossible to build sound constitutional doctrine upon a mistaken understanding of constitutional history, but unfortunately the Establishment Clause has been expressly freighted with Jefferson’s misleading metaphor for nearly 40 years.’”

This is why the appointment of judges is so important to our country. For too long we’ve been silent, and now we are paying the price of our indifference. We need wisdom and character and self-control back in our courts. Freedom and democracy depend on it.

"Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for justice, for they shall be filled." Matthew 5:6

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[little jeremiah]

I'm sorry to say it, but your comments seem meant to disrupt.

[Doe Eyes]

I'm sorry that Biblical passages disturb you.

[DocRock]

Our first law in this land regarding public education was to teach kids to read the Bible.

Link to PDF Document on Old Deluder Satan Law

[DocRock]

“Chief Justice Rehnquist has said: ‘It is impossible to build sound constitutional doctrine upon a mistaken understanding of constitutional history, but unfortunately the Establishment Clause has been expressly freighted with Jefferson’s misleading metaphor for nearly 40 years.’”

In Zorach v. Clausen, (343 U.S. 306), Justice William O. Douglas, one of the most atheistic, anti religious Supreme Court Justices, wrote the following:

"The First Amendment... does not say that in every and all respects there shall be a separation of Church and State. Rather, it studiously defines the manner, the specific ways, in which there shall be no concert or union or dependency one on the other. That is the common sense of the matter. Otherwise the state and religion would be aliens to each other - hostile, suspicious, and even unfriendly... Municipalities would not be permitted to render police or fire protection to religious groups. Policemen who helped parishioners into their places of worship would violate the Constitution. Prayers in our legislative halls; the appeals to the Almighty in the messages of the Chief Executive; the proclamation making Thanksgiving Day a holiday; "so help me God" in our courtroom oaths - these and all other references to the Almighty that run through our laws, our public rituals, our ceremonies, would be flouting the First Amendment. A fastidious atheist or agnostic could even object to the supplication with which the Court opens each session: "God save the United States and this Honorable Court".

[little jeremiah]

As I said, it seems that your comments are meant to be disruptive.

I am perfectly willing to engage in a discussion about what Jesus meant, whether people praying or worshipping in houses of worship are going against his instructions, and whether people praying publicly are going against his instructions.

But you just want to bait and switch. Your free will at work.

[jamaly]

Bump for later.

[Doe Eyes]

As I said, it seems that your comments are meant to be disruptive. I am perfectly willing to engage in a discussion about what Jesus meant, whether people praying or worshipping in houses of worship are going against his instructions, and whether people praying publicly are going against his instructions. But you just want to bait and switch. Your free will at work.

I have fairly responded to you, yet you refuse to respond to me.

It seems you are the disruptor.

[little jeremiah]

Free will at work.

[Goodgirlinred]

I don't know why anyone listens to the ACLU anyway. I am very upset about that teacher in Louisiana who brought that suit. She was a student teacher at the time. FOX did not make it clear what her problem was. She said in the interview that the teacher had her stop the lesson she was getting ready to teach long enough for a student to get up and pray out loud for one of the teacher's friends who was ill. That is, I believe, a small community. What was the problem? If the student had no problem with it, why did the student teacher?

[EdReform]

Ping

[Erik Latranyi]

Guantanamo would be acceptable for Christians, not terrorists.

You're a troll and will never come back, right?

No, I'm making a joke and you didn't get it!

[Mark17]

The ACLU needs to go.

I am not 100% sure, but wasn't the ACLU originally founded to defend communists from the government? I thought I heard that somewhere.

[CarlEOlsoniii]

the aclu was actual once a respected private organization in the early, mid 20th century. But then someone other than the founder took over, and he turned it into the public anti-christian army it is now.

[ClancyJ]

Have not read the whole thread but - the ACLU is not the authority of the land. The ACLU is merely one organization using suing others as the tool to destory what they wish to destroy.

And, the ACLU does not tell us who will be arrested. We must stop this group (who get funds from the government for suing the populus-thereby meaning we pay for their assault on our personal liberty.)

I am looking for someone to sue the ACLU over imposing their views on Americans by lawsuit.

We will pray in this country and the ACLU will not fill the prisons with Christians and survive. They better realize they wake a sleeping giant - same as Japan finally realized.

[ClancyJ]

I think Jesus EXPECTS his people to pray whereever they wish as he is the one We follow - not the ones imposing their godless state on us.

We will pray and there will be no interference by government because that is why this country was set up. If you cannot stand that others pray - there are many other countries you would love.

Personally, I expect the ACLU to quit imposing their view on the majority of Americans at my expense both in tax dollars to support them and tax dollars to pay the lawyers to fight them.

[dannyboy72]

Now don't start picking on women of a certain age just because one happens to be a pain in the A**!

Sorry it took me so long to respond, but... touchette. You have my apologies, and the car bumper who lost its sheen to give Nancy that new face has my sympathies as well.

[Mark17]

he turned it into the public anti-christian army it is now.

Thanks for the info.

[Goodgirlinred]

HOWL! OK, well, you better say something nice, like you think women are more beautiful as they mature because they lose that doughy look and take on a look of character, wisdom, humor, and "that certain attraction". ;)

[claude70454]

well than can just put me in jail my family will pray any time and any were we like