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Bush to Try to Clarify Immigration Stance
Newsday ^ | 6/8/2005

Posted on 06/08/2005 5:39:25 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak

WASHINGTON - In a meeting with members of Congress, President Bush said he needs to do a better job explaining his position on immigration changes, House Majority Leader Tom Delay said Wednesday.

"He admitted he hasn't done a very good job in being clear to the American people where he's coming from, and he's going to try to do better," said Delay, who attended the White House session where the president discussed his legislative agenda.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; bordersecurity; bush43; bushamnesty; damagecontrol; delay; guestworker; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigrationplan; immigrationreform; issues; tancredo; term2
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To: Ramius

I didn't mention who'd be watching them.

There's an entire system of closed military bases along the border. There's a huge number of combat arms vets like me that would come back in a heartbeat, given some stability of stations and reinstatement of prior rank/pay grade, or farm the entire operation out to KBR as in Iraq and Afghanistan. As it sits right now, I'm going back to Afghanistan to work for them - but would love to pull the duty here on our border.

We'd be the ones catching and watching them. Tunnels my ass.

Let's hear your version of reality, speed.


81 posted on 06/08/2005 6:28:21 PM PDT by datura (Looking down at the bayonet sliding out of him, OBL read "Molon Labe" on the hilt.)
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To: LibertarianInExile
Bumping your comments.

Enforcing existing laws is a priority.

sw

82 posted on 06/08/2005 6:28:33 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Dane

" Yeah it sure take a lot of balls to pontificate from a keyboard"

Pot, meet Kettle.


83 posted on 06/08/2005 6:28:34 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Mexico, the 51st state.)
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To: Dane

Keep in mind, there are many that don't really want the solution, they want the *issue* more.


84 posted on 06/08/2005 6:29:04 PM PDT by Ramius (Don't get strung out... by the way I look...)
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To: Howlin

The poll of common sense, crazies not included.


85 posted on 06/08/2005 6:32:03 PM PDT by demkicker (It's clear that Frist cannot heard those Senate cats!)
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To: demkicker

I figured there wasn't anything to back that up.


86 posted on 06/08/2005 6:33:26 PM PDT by Howlin (Up or down on Janice Brown!)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

It's just a wee bit disingenuous that the same time Bush is trying to clarify his position, He (his appointees) issue and promote (LA Times)a brand spanking new road-map guide for immigrants to get all they can get. Of course, it is being distributed in all the major earth languages, and amazing--even English.
http://uscis.gov/graphics/citizenship/imm_guide.htm


87 posted on 06/08/2005 6:34:37 PM PDT by CharlieChan
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To: Ramius

What I want is manifest action along the lines of 9/11 mobilization. I consider the threat of unsecured land borders very real and deserving of the highest priority of government.

The Executive/Legislative rhetoric of the past 4 years hasn't done anything to stem the tide.


88 posted on 06/08/2005 6:34:40 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Mexico, the 51st state.)
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To: datura

I've been trying to get a real discussion started for ideas that will actually work.

First I think we need to define the components of the problem. People coming here to work in fields and hotels and restaurants are not a threat that I'm particularly worried about. People coming here to blow up shopping malls *are* a threat to be worried about.

Tell me what you think of a sponsored guest worker card? This makes *legal* immigrants out of the bulk of the traffic over the border, and relieves the border patrol to work on a much smaller and more manageable threat.


89 posted on 06/08/2005 6:35:04 PM PDT by Ramius (Don't get strung out... by the way I look...)
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To: Howlin

Aw come on... Can't you have a little Bush boarder bashing fun, or do you think he's doing a great job with the daily immigrant floods?


90 posted on 06/08/2005 6:37:04 PM PDT by demkicker (It's clear that Frist cannot heard those Senate cats!)
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To: Ramius

"Sponsored" guest worker card......Firstly, I want to know that you are paying that worker by US laws for US workers. That means the full line of accounting, benefits, wages, etc. That way, you aren't importing lower wages into the US, driving down the prevailing wage within our borders.

Agreed?


91 posted on 06/08/2005 6:38:50 PM PDT by datura (Looking down at the bayonet sliding out of him, OBL read "Molon Labe" on the hilt.)
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To: Ramius

"I'm *all for* that. I am boggled that employers aren't held responsible for the immigration status of employees... in fact... as an employer I'm not even allowed to ask."

Uh, NO, I don't think I'll buy that you're an employer, at least, certainly not one that hires anyone legally. As an employer you are REQUIRED to ask immigration status! What EMPLOYER doesn't know to have their employees fill out an I-9? They're right here: http://uscis.gov/graphics/formsfee/forms/i-9.htm


92 posted on 06/08/2005 6:39:11 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (<-- sick of faux-conservatives who want federal government intervention for 'conservative things.')
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To: demkicker

I never said he was doing a great job; I asked you to back up what you posted.


93 posted on 06/08/2005 6:39:52 PM PDT by Howlin (Up or down on Janice Brown!)
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To: LibertarianInExile

I thought the same thing when I read that post of his.


94 posted on 06/08/2005 6:40:22 PM PDT by datura (Looking down at the bayonet sliding out of him, OBL read "Molon Labe" on the hilt.)
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To: Rebelbase
"All that damned ID will do is divert the illegal criminal flood to the cities with good public transportation so they can continue to work without needing a driver's license."

Not even. They'll just drive without a legal license. Hell, most of them already do. It's not like illegally crossing the border suddenly incentives you to wait in a DMV line, or pay for auto insurance so you can get a drivers' license legally.

95 posted on 06/08/2005 6:41:36 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (<-- sick of faux-conservatives who want federal government intervention for 'conservative things.')
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To: Howlin

Geeze, Howlin, do I have to use the damn sarcasm tags to keep you from picking nits? Lighten up, fcol.


96 posted on 06/08/2005 6:42:07 PM PDT by demkicker (It's clear that Frist cannot heard those Senate cats!)
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To: Liz

Think about the immigrants who came here legally and went through the trouble to get TWO financial sponsors, testing, etc etc. How do you think they feel?????


97 posted on 06/08/2005 6:42:43 PM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
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To: Dane

Yep...keep the faith. Trust in your leaders always to do what they should and you will never be disappointed, right?
I stand by my blind faith statement


98 posted on 06/08/2005 6:43:04 PM PDT by commonasdirt (Reading DU so you won't hafta)
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To: demkicker

Nits? You assumed to speak for 100 percent of the GOP; that's not a nit.


99 posted on 06/08/2005 6:43:11 PM PDT by Howlin (Up or down on Janice Brown!)
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To: Ramius
Do you want to fix it or are you having more fun just b1tching about it?

I can't fix it...But the politicians can...They know the will of the people and they ignore it...

All I can do is join with the other 80% of Americans that feel the same way I do and encourage everyone to vote these goons out of office and replace them with 'anyone' who will put America first...

100 posted on 06/08/2005 6:43:16 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park!!!)
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