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"Oh Muslims! Do you know your enemy? Isn't it obvious?"
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Posted on 06/08/2005 10:22:11 AM PDT by velocityguy

"Oh Muslims! Do you know your enemy? Isn't it obvious?"

Here is a video of American Muslims stomping on and then ripping up an American flag. Just before they rip it up one of them places a sign on it that says, "Oh Muslims! Do you know your enemy? Isn't it obvious?"

But if we even ask how many Muslims in America think this way, CAIR will bellow about discrimination and Islamophobia. So attention is diverted from activities such as what is shown in this video, and they can continue unheeded.


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KEYWORDS: cair; flagdesecration; muslimamericans; oldglory
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To: velocityguy

I'm not American, but that video really made me angry.

Using the freedoms they despise as a shield to do something that offensive.

Dump them back in some Muslim hellhole country and then see how they enjoy the freedoms there!


41 posted on 06/08/2005 11:55:15 AM PDT by Scytale
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To: Mr. Mojo; Calpernia

"but there were also at least a couple that looked of Middle Eastern extraction."

From the video what I gather, this video is taken on a street consisting of Asian shopping complexes (This claim, I make because I see women in Salwar kameez, a typical South Asian clothing). Poeple from Syria, Ingush, Albania Lebanon etc for example CAN look like Westerners. Just look at your Chief Military commander overseeing Iraqi operations, John Abizaid, for example. He is of Middle Eastern Origin. Does he look like Arab or Muslim? Ofcourse not! Likewise, the recently convicted Intel VP from Oregon(he was convicted on Islamic terrorism charges).

While I agree some people look like Caucasians in this video, please take no offense, simply put, it is hard to say some one is not a Muslim because they do not look like typical Osama bin Laden or talk Arabic with Saudi accent.


42 posted on 06/08/2005 11:59:32 AM PDT by velocityguy
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To: Banjoguy
"The only good Muslim is a dead Muslim..no exceptions"

I disagree, I know lots of "Bad Muslims" who don't go to mosque, don't own a koran, and enjoy a good BLT or ham and cheese. They are good people. On the other side I'ver met a few serious practicing Muslims, and I agree they are very scary, bad people.

43 posted on 06/08/2005 12:00:08 PM PDT by joshhiggins (The only good muslim is a bad muslim, and vice versa.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

If you see my post number 4 and my initial post to you. I specified: converts, Arab Muslim and immigrant.

That was my point.


44 posted on 06/08/2005 12:07:27 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Steppenwolf

You left out "apostate".

I think "Ibrahim" Hooper was a Christian - once.


45 posted on 06/08/2005 12:08:58 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: velocityguy

This is Brooklyn, NY.

>>>>it is hard to say some one is not a Muslim because they do not look like typical Osama bin Laden or talk Arabic with Saudi accent.

Go back and read my post number 4 very slowly.


46 posted on 06/08/2005 12:09:25 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: velocityguy
The Supreme Court has secured the right for anyone to desecrate the American flag. It seems the only illegal desecration these days is "disrespecting" the "holy koran."
47 posted on 06/08/2005 12:16:58 PM PDT by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: Calpernia

I do not know if its Brooklyn. But I do know that this incident happened in NY (as per the article I read) and on the street with Asian shopping complexes.

There is a more elaborate version of this article posted later on after my original post at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1419017/posts


My point is simply this, any Muslim following the violent book of Jihad is a threat to civilized world as demonstrated time and time again each day in the news articles around the world.


48 posted on 06/08/2005 1:07:01 PM PDT by velocityguy
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To: velocityguy

49 posted on 06/08/2005 1:10:52 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (A living affront to Islam since 1959)
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To: SlowBoat407

what are you talking about? I have no clue!


50 posted on 06/08/2005 1:15:54 PM PDT by velocityguy
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To: velocityguy

Yes, it is Brooklyn, NY. I know.

And thanks for the link; but I did see the WND thread also.

>>>>My point is simply this, any Muslim following the violent book of Jihad is a threat to civilized world as demonstrated time and time again each day in the news articles around the world.

I do understand. That is my point in pointing out who is doing the flaming here. There is a violent book of jihad and there is a non violent book of the Koran.

The people burning the flag in this video look like the A.N.S.W.E.R, IAC, Socialist Group. They infiltrate everything to create their agenda. They are enraged about Condi Rice naming The Free Muslims Coalition to the U.S. Delegation to combate Terrorism.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1415391/posts


51 posted on 06/08/2005 1:16:32 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: joshhiggins
I'm really just venting my frustration at the do-gooders who always, it seems, need to relearn the lessons of history and human nature.

Q: Are these people you describe as 'bad muslims' really following the Muslim faith at all?

Those who follow the Koran and have been indoctrinated from birth are beyond understanding and compassion. They are wired differently than you and I.

Knowing what I do about them helps me understand the genocidal wars that have been carried out against Muslim populations in other parts of the world. They will never assimilate politically or culturally. They believe in murder and misogyny as a way of life. They breed like cockroaches.

52 posted on 06/08/2005 1:18:18 PM PDT by Banjoguy (Don't be brain dead.)
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To: Calpernia

I really do not know American politics. All I know is what I have learned as a Muslim for 21 years of my life before I finally quit the evil, out-of-touch-with-reality pagan cult.
There is no such thing as a "non-violent book". Islam rises and thrives on violence. Infact, there is NO concept of Love in Islam like Christianity. There is no concept of non-violence in Islam like Hinduism and Budhism do. Islam is based on the plagiarised book of Jihad. That is what it is.


53 posted on 06/08/2005 1:20:42 PM PDT by velocityguy
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To: velocityguy
"Oh Muslims! Do you know your enemy?..."

They are still muslims so they don't know who their enemy is.

54 posted on 06/08/2005 1:26:30 PM PDT by JWinNC (www.anailinhisplace.net)
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To: velocityguy

This isn't American politics. IAC is/was affiliated with Ahmed Shama under SAAR Foundation.

A LESS violent translation of the Koran exists and is being prompted up by The Free Muslims Coalition.


55 posted on 06/08/2005 1:27:38 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

"A LESS violent translation of the Koran exists and is being prompted up by The Free Muslims Coalition."

Okay, you are missing the point big time! Therefore, there is no use in arguing with you.

There is no such thing as less violence in islam. Islam prescribes cutting an infidel i.e non-Muslim, from opposite ends. That is what is also taught to me when I was a Muslim.

The "LESS violent translation" you are talking about is geared for the "gullible Westerners". I am aware of several of these versions.

If you want to see Islam in action, just look around the world and look at the stoning of women, beheading of non-Muslims and the intolerant Saudi law (which is based on the purest from of Islamic interpretation).

Please take no offense, but it is very dangerous and foolish to believe that there actually exists a "A LESS violent" Islam.

If people believe in the lies and deceit of Islam like the people in "Eurabia" believed, then USA might one day become ISA (Islamic States of America).


56 posted on 06/08/2005 1:38:51 PM PDT by velocityguy
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To: velocityguy

No. I'm not missing any point.

There are four translation of the Koran. We support one of the translation. This is the version we recognize.

This is the version is the version that is recognized and promoted by The Free Muslims Coalition.


57 posted on 06/08/2005 1:43:19 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

1. I will believe in less violent Islam on the day when Muslims allow building a Hindu temple, a Christian Church and a Synagogue in Mecca and Medina.

2. I will believe in less violent islam on the day when Muslims accept Muhammad married a 6 year old Aisha and raped her when she turned 9.

3. I will believe in less violent Islam when Islamists apologize for the inhuman and gruesome violence committed by them on 9/11 and in Beslan and fight for the human rights and civil rights of non-Muslims in the Islamic countries.

4. I will believe in less violent Islam when women in my own family and in other islamic families around the world are treated as partners equal to men and stop killing them in the name of honor killings and restric their freedoms.


58 posted on 06/08/2005 1:53:12 PM PDT by velocityguy
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To: velocityguy
Our flag is our colors...

Gangs are very sensitive about gang "colors"..
Islam is no religion or even a cult it is a GANG...

Its normal they would hate our flag.. exposes them though..
As the GANG they are..

59 posted on 06/08/2005 1:58:42 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: velocityguy

What your beliefs are has nothing to do with this video which is what I'm commenting about.


60 posted on 06/08/2005 2:16:55 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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