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Johnson's Watergate (NRO)
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Posted on 06/07/2005 6:56:02 AM PDT by slowhand520

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1 posted on 06/07/2005 6:56:02 AM PDT by slowhand520
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Good post! I'll bookmark.


2 posted on 06/07/2005 6:58:05 AM PDT by cvq3842
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It was a political scandal of unprecedented proportions:

I was thinking the Clintons. Nixon and Johnson combined couldn't touch them with a ten foot pole when it comes to crimes in office. I believe that Hillary is still leading the pact of criminals in high places.

3 posted on 06/07/2005 6:59:58 AM PDT by kcvl
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What's the point?

It's been proven beyond a doubt that Johnson did whatever it took to win, including dirty tricks and stuffing ballot boxes. He was a bully and many other bad things.

None of which excuses Nixon or his henchmen.


4 posted on 06/07/2005 7:04:44 AM PDT by Gone GF
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I personally think Johnson was just as corrupt as Clinton although that is hard to believe.

I read a book, I think the Author was Cato, but can't remember for sure, about Johnson. He was an interesting character. He was crooked from childhood. Also a physical coward.

When he stole his Senate seat, he was aided by Harry Truman, that icon of modern Democrats, and sadly, many Republicans.

5 posted on 06/07/2005 7:06:22 AM PDT by yarddog
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When JFK (whatever you thought of him, the man was never a coward) asked LBJ to visit Vietnam for him in 1963, LBJ apparently physically quaked with fear. Typical reaction for a bully and a cheat. Neither the Washington Post nor CBS "News" were, of course, interested one bit in LBJ's criminality; it didn't further their political objectives.


6 posted on 06/07/2005 7:13:30 AM PDT by laconic
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Can I assume you are one of the Hillary voters on here from your comments? Comparing Nixon and LBJ -- not even close. Nixon covered for his staff because he was loyal to people around him -- LBJ was involved in every detail of bugging the Goldwater campaign and dirty tricks and that doesn't even include his micromanaging the the war in Vietnam.

Watergate was a 3rd rate burglarly at best -- LBJ bugged everything in the Goldwater campaign not to mention stealing ballot boxes in Texas in his first campaign for Senate.


7 posted on 06/07/2005 7:14:11 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- J.C. for OK Governor; Allen in 2008)
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Again, I am going on old memory, but IIRC, the watergate burglary was attempted because they thought the democrat national campaign was guilty of treason and they were trying to catch them red handed, (no pun intended).

Of course they were probably trying to catch them for political purposes rather than national security.

8 posted on 06/07/2005 7:22:56 AM PDT by yarddog
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When we lived in Tulsa, I got to meet one of the captains of a PT boat in Kennedy's squadron.

Of course I had to ask him about it.

He said Kennedy was liked by all of them. He also said he behaved well after his boat was sunk. On the other hand he said having your PT boat rammed by a ship was considered about as bad as it gets since they were the fastest thing on the water.

9 posted on 06/07/2005 7:25:50 AM PDT by yarddog
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"What's the point?"

In my opinion, the point is that the Watergate story is a story about the media, not the Nixon presidency and administration. It shows that the media was already completely one-sided more than 30 years ago.

We now know that the "Watergate" many of us were raised on was BS. The real story is how a disgruntled federal employee feeding dirt to a Red-Diaper (Doper) Baby working for a major paper can bring down a government.


10 posted on 06/07/2005 7:49:58 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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"Again, I am going on old memory, but IIRC, the watergate burglary was attempted because they thought the democrat national campaign was guilty of treason and they were trying to catch them red handed, (no pun intended)."

Trying to catch Democrats in treason, like criticizing Democrats caught red-handed in treason, is the worst sin of all in the eyes of the mainstream media.

No, actually, there is one worse sin. Trying to undermine the spread of communism in Latin America is probably the worst crime.

11 posted on 06/07/2005 7:57:09 AM PDT by Montfort (President George Allen)
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a question that came to me this week is that if Felt knew everything according to Haldeman, why is he characterized as only offering encouragement to Woodward and Bernstein? I bet that there is a cover-up here for some truly criminal behavior on Felt's part.

And the way that Woodward first met Felt in the basement room of the White House kind of sounds like a gay hookup to me. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

12 posted on 06/07/2005 8:00:28 AM PDT by Thebaddog (Dawgs off the coffee table.)
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Difficult to believe that the FBI and CIA would do anything illegal. (Caustic sarcasm)


13 posted on 06/07/2005 8:05:26 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: yarddog
I read a book, I think the Author was Cato, but can't remember for sure, about Johnson. He was an interesting character. He was crooked from childhood. Also a physical coward.

I read "My Brother Lyndon" by Sam Houston Johnson. It recalls a number of his childhood shennanigans along with some oft overlooked perspectives on his life in the Whitehouse.

14 posted on 06/07/2005 8:08:08 AM PDT by TheRightGuy (ERROR CODE 018974523: Random Tagline Compiler Failure)
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To: slowhand520

And where was Deep Throat back then?


15 posted on 06/07/2005 8:09:23 AM PDT by holdonnow
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"Can I assume you are one of the Hillary voters on here from your comments?" Not exactly sure how you came up with that. I have not and never will vote for Hillary. Or even consider voting for her. I despise her. It really doesn't matter which one is worse -- Nixon or LBJ. In fact, I'll agree LBJ was much, much worse because he was. What Nixon did was still illegal and if he hadn't quit he would have been impeached and convicted. Call it loyalty as somebody else did, but that doesn't make it right. I'm absolutely flabbergasted by the number of Freepers defending Nixon by pointing out Democrats who are worse.≥ That's a tactic I expect to see from liberals.
16 posted on 06/07/2005 8:09:37 AM PDT by Gone GF
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I don't think anyone is saying it was ok because the dems did it too.

There is some truth tho, that when your opponent is ignoring all the rules, that sometimes it is necessary to get dirty along with them, or lose.

I don't agree with that but it certainly is a mitigating factor.

And there really is no doubt that the dems were playing dirty first and were deeper in the dirt.

17 posted on 06/07/2005 8:15:52 AM PDT by yarddog
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Not to mention the fake attack on our ships in the Gulf of Tonkin that LBJ used as an excuse to escallate the war and directly benefit his big business buddies at the expense of Ameican GI blood. If the Dims accuse a Republican President of doing something heinous, you can make one of two assumptions:

1. They or theirs have done it in spades.

2. They or theirs are in the middle of doing it.

18 posted on 06/07/2005 8:17:14 AM PDT by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: Gone GF
It's not defending Nixon to point out the selective nature of the press. IMO that's what this article is doing.

The press leads us around by the nose ring, deciding what is news and what isn't. For maybe 40 years, it appears, that decision has been guided by a liberal world-view (i.e. what's best for the Donkey-party). The American people have been too trusting.
19 posted on 06/07/2005 8:21:50 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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What's the point? It's been proven beyond a doubt that Johnson did whatever it took to win, including dirty tricks and stuffing ballot boxes. He was a bully and many other bad things. None of which excuses Nixon or his henchmen.

The point is that the media completely ignored the corruption on the part of the Democrats, especially today in their retrospectives. Had Watergate pulled down a Dem president, every report on it on ABCBSNBCNN would have a disclaimer in the 2nd sentence about how "Of course previous Republican administrations had engaged in the same illegal activity." It isn't about excusing Nixon, but further exposing the media 'coverups'. There is such a thing as 'lying by ommission'.

20 posted on 06/07/2005 8:28:05 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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