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(Vanity) What is "freedom" to YOU?
Hoagy62

Posted on 06/04/2005 9:39:39 PM PDT by hoagy62

What does freedom mean to you as an American? I've seen people talking about defending freedom, people that hate freedom, and the rights of those who are free. My question is: For YOU, what does freedom mean? Is it the right to say or do what you want? Is it the right to own a gun, but not to tell the government? What kind of government does it mean?


TOPICS: Philosophy; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: freedom; liberty; life; pursuitofhappiness
I am not trying to start any fights or such. I just want Freepers to answer the question as they want: What is Freedom to YOU?

Thanks.

1 posted on 06/04/2005 9:39:40 PM PDT by hoagy62
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To: hoagy62

Freedom's just a word for nothing left to lose


2 posted on 06/04/2005 9:47:34 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (We shall yet make these United States a Moral Nation - The Rev. Elmer Gantry)
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To: Oztrich Boy

I think you forgot too add another...


3 posted on 06/04/2005 9:50:04 PM PDT by Free2BeMe
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To: Oztrich Boy

Nothing don’t mean nothing honey if it ain’t free, now now.


4 posted on 06/04/2005 9:50:16 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: hoagy62

It means realizing that once you've got your eternal salvation worked out, nothing here on earth in this short life matters all that much.


5 posted on 06/04/2005 9:51:21 PM PDT by DryFly
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To: hoagy62
Freedom in a consistent political context can only mean freedom from other people.
6 posted on 06/04/2005 9:54:49 PM PDT by mc6809e
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To: hoagy62

True freedom is in loving, serving and knowing God. I never knew true freedom until discovering this.

On an individual basis and collectively, humans only become enslaved by the ancient enemy when they seek freedom from God's laws and merciful care. Those who bother to look will see overwhelming historic and current evidence of this.


7 posted on 06/04/2005 10:04:37 PM PDT by AAABEST (Kyrie eleison - Christe eleison †)
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To: hoagy62
After a strict constructionist interpretation of the "Bill of Rights", including giving Full Credit to the "Tribal" sources of our Constitution...

It is about the Right to Defend self, loved ones, neighbors, Property, & Strangers! AND, The Right to laugh, PUBLICLY at the "emperors new clothes"!
8 posted on 06/04/2005 10:10:42 PM PDT by PizzaDriver (an heinleinian/libertarian)
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To: hoagy62
For me, as a woman in the greatest nation on earth it means (and not in totality):

To vote (or not)
To work 50 hours a week (or not)
To surf the web, seek the truth, draw my own conclusions or not)
To go to Church (or not)
To assemble (or not)
To protest (or not)
To go shopping at any store of my choice, on any day of my choice (or not)
To drive (or not)
To walk down the street by myself, with my head held high (or not)
To wear any skirt, dress or pair of daisy dukes that I want (or not)
To disagree with someone peacefully (or not)
To marry the man of my dreams...my choice (or not)
To send my children and Grandchildren to the school of my choice (or not)
To turn off Oprah (or not)

And I have our wonderful military to thank for all of it. The sacrifices of those unselfish, unwavering heroes, I stand in Awe. I thank my Grandparents who had the guts to come to America from Europe with NOTHING and make something....

I could go on and on....... But since this is my very first post, I will keep it short. Too many people fall into the (OR NOT) category if you ask me.
9 posted on 06/04/2005 10:12:55 PM PDT by slynx
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To: hoagy62

Good topic; I look forward to seeing what the replies look like. Among other things -- a LOT of other things -- I personally think Freedom means, first and foremost, the right to be LEFT the heck ALONE. But maybe that's just me.

But -- and this has to be stressed too (cuz FREEpers would know this better than most) -- Freedom is NOT Free. NEVER forget that OUR Freedom -- mine and yours -- has been bought and paid for only by the sacrifices of those brave enough to pay the price, when must needs, to KEEP our Freedoms for us. Any discusssion of what freedom IS would be incomplete without a reminder of what it COSTS, and what we OWE to everyone who has ever served.


10 posted on 06/04/2005 10:16:56 PM PDT by teech (You can read this: thank your teachers. You're FREE to read this: thank our Veterans.)
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To: hoagy62

11 posted on 06/04/2005 10:23:11 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: hoagy62

Freedom from unjustified coercion. The rule of law. The rule of law is not freedom in itself, but it's necessary. I'm currently reading Hayek's "The Constitution of Liberty". What struck me was that a pre-requisite to the establishment and maintenance of freedom is the rule of law. In short, every law should apply equally to everyone. This is nothing new and it's something I've always advocated. It's just a little clearer as to how it applies to freedom.


12 posted on 06/04/2005 10:31:58 PM PDT by nosofar
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To: hoagy62

"What is Freedom to YOU?"

Pretty close to non-existant. What's left is being trashed in the name of security.


13 posted on 06/04/2005 10:44:47 PM PDT by agitator (...And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark)
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To: hoagy62

Freedom is never having to ask those you allow to run your government for permission to do anything.


14 posted on 06/04/2005 10:46:23 PM PDT by c-b 1
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To: hoagy62

I just know that freedom costs a buck o' five.


15 posted on 06/05/2005 12:07:20 AM PDT by flashbunny
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To: teech

"...the right to be LEFT the heck ALONE"

That's a pretty good definition.


16 posted on 06/05/2005 2:22:44 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: hoagy62

No bag limit on liberals........


17 posted on 06/05/2005 5:36:08 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: hoagy62

Freedom is man's greatest concept...a non-divisive concept, the only concept that buttresses the reality of life.


18 posted on 06/05/2005 6:48:13 PM PDT by PGalt (It is man's gift to himself)
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To: hoagy62

19 posted on 06/07/2005 8:38:18 PM PDT by Dashing Dasher (Ailerons make the world go 'round!)
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To: slynx

You hit the nail, squarely!
Your list was all "Freedom TO".
Lib's and Big Gov' types pitch
"FREEDOM FROM"


20 posted on 07/23/2005 12:07:47 AM PDT by PizzaDriver (an heinleinian/libertarian)
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