Posted on 06/04/2005 7:45:39 AM PDT by new cruelty
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) estimates that airbags installed in automobiles have saved some 10,000 lives as of January 2004. A just-released study by a statistician at the University of Georgia, however, casts doubt on that assertion. In fact, said UGA statistics professor Mary C. Meyer, a new analysis of existing data indicates that, controlling for other factors, airbags are actually associated with slightly increased probability of death in accidents.
"NHTSA recorded 238 deaths due to airbags between 1990 and 2002, according to information about these deaths on their Web site, said Meyer. They all occurred at very low speeds, with injuries that could not have been caused by anything else. But is it reasonable to conclude that airbags cause death only at very low speeds? It seems more likely that they also cause deaths at high speeds, but these are attributed to the crash.
For any given crash at high speed, we cant know what would have happened if there had been no airbag; however, statistical models allow us to look at patterns in the data, and compare risks in populations, in a variety of situations.
The study was published this week in the magazine Chance.
The new analysis directly contradicts earlier studies about the effectiveness of airbags, which have been required for drivers and front-seat passengers in all cars since the 1998 model year in the United States.
While the value of airbags seems dubious in the new study, the value of seatbelts is not. The analysis found that proper use of a seatbelt reduces the odds of death by 67 percent for any given speed category and airbag availability. Airbags, however, cause no statistical difference in car-crash deaths, except for unseatbelted occupants at low speeds, where the odds of death are estimated to be more than four times higher with an airbag than without.
It has been known for some time that airbags pose special risks to children and small women. Auto manuals routinely say young children, especially those in car seats, should not be put in front seats where they might be injured or killed by an inflating airbag.
The reason earlier studies have found that airbags save lives is that they used only a special subset of the available data, said Meyer. The Fatality Analysis and Reporting System (FARS) is a high-quality compilation of information about every highway accident for which a death occurred. The Crashworthiness Data System (CDS) is another high-quality dataset, containing random samples of all accidents. The previous studies used FARS, and Meyers study used CDS.
When we look at the random sample of all accidents, we find that airbags are associated with increased risk of death, she said, and this increase is due to more deaths with airbags in low-speed crashes and no seatbelts. However, if we limit the dataset to include only collisions in which a fatality occurred, we get a significantly reduced risk of death due to airbags.
By way of analogy, the Meyer explained it this way: If you look at people who have some types of cancer, you will see that those who get radiation treatment have a better chance of surviving than those who dont. However, radiation is inherently dangerous and could actually cause cancer. If you give everyone radiation treatments, whether they have cancer or not, you will probably find an increased risk of death in the general population.
Making everyone have airbags and then verifying the effectiveness using only fatal crashes in FARS is like making everyone get radiation and then estimating the lives saved by looking only at people who have cancer. Overall, there will be more deaths if everyone is given radiation, but in the cancer subset, radiation will be effective.
The new study directly contradicts assertions about airbag safety on the NHTSA Web site, said Meyer. The correct analysis is important to obtain now, because in only a few years, there will be virtually no cars on the road without airbags.
We are confident that our analyses better reflect the actual effectiveness of airbags in the general population [than earlier studies], said Meyer. The evidence shows that airbags do more harm than good.
I'm the passenger (I don't drive), and in my state, they fine the driver, not the passenger. The fine is I believe around a hundred dollars and the driver accumulates points for the violation as well. After I believe two violations, the license is suspended.
Believe me, if I didn't have to wear one in order to keep the driver out of trouble, I wouldn't. Recently, the state discontinued requirements for motorcyclists to wear helmets...why they won't make seatbelts optional is beyond me. To me, it's just another money grab for the state. I'm with you -- I don't like government telling me what I can and cannot do in situations that affect only me.
"I've seen people injured and bruised by airbags.
I don't trust them."
I have been a fireman for about 18 yrs. From waht I have seen, your chances of being injured by the airbag is about 1:3.
I have seen a bunch of people who would not have had a scratch had it not been for the airbag.
When that thing hits you at 200mph, it is going to hurt.
I think there are probably more Republicans than Democrats who do not wear their seat belts going be the threads I see here on the subject.
I used to visit a brain injury rehab hospital and I was told that a number of the patients had injuries from airbags.
Maybe that will work. Thanks for the tip. :)
My brother tried to have his adjusted...he drives a Malibu...didn't work for me.
My uncle has a Saturn...no problems with the harness for me. Comes low enough to not strangle me.
Much less costly and resource intensive, don't ya know.
Surely there is more safety to be gained by going after those who improperly change lanes, fail to signal, drive too slowly or drive to fast. But too many people would be irritated, too many people would be snared, and the safety facade would fall by the wayside.
People didn't strip off most of their cloths and spend all day laying in the sun. They covered their skin and looked for shade. And even with that, they got skin cancers, but most were dead from something else before they lived long enough for the cancer to kill them.
While the value of airbags seems dubious in the new study, the value of seat-belts is not. The analysis found that proper use of a seat-belt reduces the odds of death by 67 percent for any given speed category and airbag availability.[emphasis added]
Use of a seat-belt is a no-brainer, and anyone who refuses to use one, in view of seat-belt data collected for the last fifty years, has no brain.
If someone you know and care about refuses to use a seat-belt, tell them to go to an amusement park and refuse to use restraints on a fast and jerky ride (I know that's not possible, but just for the sake of discussion assume it is). Obviously, they may be thrown off the ride and suffer a head injury and be paralyzed or die. The very same effects apply to being thrown from a car or into a windshield, or even a padded dashboard, or the back of a seat. Why is it different in a car?
No seat belt = no brain (or, at the very least, a damaged brain).
As I said in post 24, brain injuries can be one result of an airbag. We keep statistics about death, but I doubt we have statistics about other injuries caused by an airbag. It is sobering to be around those who have these injuries.
It already has, I'll try to find the study I recall seeing about two years ago.
Ouch! Those look like they would break upon impact, allowing the sharp edge of the belt to slide forcefully to the right slicing off whatever is in it's path.
check out "www.matson.com.au/safefit.html" or just google "safefit"
deceptive headline and article. Most of it fails to mention that the harm comes from not wearing a seatbelt when you have an airbag. Well chalk that up to a big DUH.
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