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Airbags associated with increased probability of death in accidents, study finds
University of Georgia ^ | June 02, 2005

Posted on 06/04/2005 7:45:39 AM PDT by new cruelty

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To: Archangelsk

I'm the passenger (I don't drive), and in my state, they fine the driver, not the passenger. The fine is I believe around a hundred dollars and the driver accumulates points for the violation as well. After I believe two violations, the license is suspended.

Believe me, if I didn't have to wear one in order to keep the driver out of trouble, I wouldn't. Recently, the state discontinued requirements for motorcyclists to wear helmets...why they won't make seatbelts optional is beyond me. To me, it's just another money grab for the state. I'm with you -- I don't like government telling me what I can and cannot do in situations that affect only me.


21 posted on 06/04/2005 8:15:52 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Jorge

"I've seen people injured and bruised by airbags.
I don't trust them."

I have been a fireman for about 18 yrs. From waht I have seen, your chances of being injured by the airbag is about 1:3.

I have seen a bunch of people who would not have had a scratch had it not been for the airbag.

When that thing hits you at 200mph, it is going to hurt.


22 posted on 06/04/2005 8:16:17 AM PDT by Clay Moore
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To: MeanWestTexan

I think there are probably more Republicans than Democrats who do not wear their seat belts going be the threads I see here on the subject.


23 posted on 06/04/2005 8:16:38 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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To: new cruelty

I used to visit a brain injury rehab hospital and I was told that a number of the patients had injuries from airbags.


24 posted on 06/04/2005 8:16:53 AM PDT by AUsome Joy
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To: livius

Maybe that will work. Thanks for the tip. :)


25 posted on 06/04/2005 8:17:03 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: frankenMonkey

My brother tried to have his adjusted...he drives a Malibu...didn't work for me.

My uncle has a Saturn...no problems with the harness for me. Comes low enough to not strangle me.


26 posted on 06/04/2005 8:18:34 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: new cruelty
Mary C. Meyer is a statistician. If she was an economist, this essay would focus on the desirability of having deaths v. severe injury.

Much less costly and resource intensive, don't ya know.

27 posted on 06/04/2005 8:19:54 AM PDT by realpatriot
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To: theDentist
That's just a money grab. If there was no fine involved for failure to use a seatbelt, there would be no enforcement. It's the facade of safety which enables the money grab to go on unchallenged.

Surely there is more safety to be gained by going after those who improperly change lanes, fail to signal, drive too slowly or drive to fast. But too many people would be irritated, too many people would be snared, and the safety facade would fall by the wayside.

28 posted on 06/04/2005 8:20:18 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: VIDADDICT
How did the species survive for thousands of years before the invention of sun screen?

People didn't strip off most of their cloths and spend all day laying in the sun. They covered their skin and looked for shade. And even with that, they got skin cancers, but most were dead from something else before they lived long enough for the cancer to kill them.

29 posted on 06/04/2005 8:20:59 AM PDT by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: theDentist
Why is that ironic?

While the value of airbags seems dubious in the new study, the value of seat-belts is not. The analysis found that proper use of a seat-belt reduces the odds of death by 67 percent for any given speed category and airbag availability.[emphasis added]

Use of a seat-belt is a no-brainer, and anyone who refuses to use one, in view of seat-belt data collected for the last fifty years, has no brain.

If someone you know and care about refuses to use a seat-belt, tell them to go to an amusement park and refuse to use restraints on a fast and jerky ride (I know that's not possible, but just for the sake of discussion assume it is). Obviously, they may be thrown off the ride and suffer a head injury and be paralyzed or die. The very same effects apply to being thrown from a car or into a windshield, or even a padded dashboard, or the back of a seat. Why is it different in a car?

No seat belt = no brain (or, at the very least, a damaged brain).

30 posted on 06/04/2005 8:21:08 AM PDT by TheGeezer
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To: fatnotlazy
Click here. I've also seen them for sale at carwashes. I can't stand using seat belts without one of these.


31 posted on 06/04/2005 8:21:20 AM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA) Wisconsin Hunter Shootings: If you want on/off the WI Hunters ping list, please let me know.)
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To: Clay Moore

As I said in post 24, brain injuries can be one result of an airbag. We keep statistics about death, but I doubt we have statistics about other injuries caused by an airbag. It is sobering to be around those who have these injuries.


32 posted on 06/04/2005 8:21:58 AM PDT by AUsome Joy
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To: new cruelty
I have my airbags turned off. At 5' and a fraction I do not want to get in a fender bender and lose my head.
33 posted on 06/04/2005 8:22:28 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (I am not a romantic, I don't hero worship and no, as a matter of fact, I don't have a heart.)
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To: fatnotlazy
Mine adjusts so that it does not hit me across the throat but there is a Velcro thingie that you can buy that will hold the shoulder strap lower.
34 posted on 06/04/2005 8:24:35 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (I am not a romantic, I don't hero worship and no, as a matter of fact, I don't have a heart.)
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To: VIDADDICT
And mark my words - some day the use of sun screen will be tied the recent increase in skin cancer cases.

It already has, I'll try to find the study I recall seeing about two years ago.

35 posted on 06/04/2005 8:26:49 AM PDT by joshhiggins (I need to lay off the NPR, It's rotting my mind.)
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To: OldSmaj
Doncha just love it when the goobermint protects us from ourselves?

The problem with America is stupidity. Why don't we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem solve itself?
36 posted on 06/04/2005 8:28:02 AM PDT by Sweet_Sunflower29 (No Christian child should be left behind in public schools.)
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To: Ladysmith

Ouch! Those look like they would break upon impact, allowing the sharp edge of the belt to slide forcefully to the right slicing off whatever is in it's path.


37 posted on 06/04/2005 8:33:51 AM PDT by joshhiggins (I need to lay off the NPR, It's rotting my mind.)
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To: fatnotlazy
My car has an adjustable seat belt so that I can set it lower and it doesn't go across my throat.

I'm not tall so it helps a lot.

How old is your car?
38 posted on 06/04/2005 8:34:17 AM PDT by Not gonna take it anymore
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To: fatnotlazy

check out "www.matson.com.au/safefit.html" or just google "safefit"


39 posted on 06/04/2005 8:40:38 AM PDT by nevergiveup (We can do it!)
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To: new cruelty

deceptive headline and article. Most of it fails to mention that the harm comes from not wearing a seatbelt when you have an airbag. Well chalk that up to a big DUH.


40 posted on 06/04/2005 8:46:02 AM PDT by flashbunny
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